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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; .30Carbine; Whosoever
[ There are two worldviews on the subject. One sees three spatial dimensions evolving over time. The other sees four dimensions, one of which is time - x,y, and t for time. ]

Waded thru Wesson and Vafa and Tegmark a little, till each spat on my Jib which made me tack away.... Wonder if Jesus considered these possible ramifications.. The human body is a wonderful bit of mechanics.. Most (of them(humans)) in time and history)) are clueless as to how it works in space/time.. It just does.. i.e the arm connected to the shoulder then to the backbone on down to the sphincter..

Humans bodys work fine not knowing how they work (usually).. it don't seem to be required (by God) to know how the body works(exactly).. It does however seem to be a requirement to know what and how the spirit works.. evidence: the Bible(written or oral even experiencial)..

What is required of the "frog in the well"(frog metaphore).. Cause it is certain we are all frogs in wells.. Few, it seems, could possibly understand the "tailings" of human fact mining.. and the "gold" thats been found could indeed be fools gold.. (math, geology, anthropology, even geometry.. etc.)

After a lifetime of wading thru the shoals and swamps and mountain peaks.. nugget hunting.. One thing is/seems certain to me.. When it gets complicated I'm probably on the wrong path.. Jesus does seem to make things "simpler".. as a matter fact he appears to operate on the "keep it simple stupid(K.I.S.S.) principle.

In my readings, he recognizes the human body but leads toward the spirit.. Theologically as in other "sciences" when it gets complicated the odor of BS is detected.. even if not seen.. Cynical?.. maybe..

Two dimensions "this one" and the "spiritual one".. seem to me to be quite practical.. Tacyons may be just a mental construct.. with marginal use.. After all a frog in a well seems to be limited to an either/or duality.. More than two options might be beyonds mans ability to comprehend.. It seems so.. beyond duality man seems to lose track chasing the maze..

Little wonder the Bible is so solid.. The spirit riding the donkey(mankind) is quite bibical.. Could be "the spirit" where all thought is generated will never under stand "this universe".. The human brain can't handle it and the human spirit don't really need to know.. If, as I suspect, human spirits will one day command "gifts" to manipulate "this universe" easily.. "We" won't "have" to know..

Meaning, as the human body operates easily in this "realm".. (not knowing the mechanics of it).. the spirit will operate in the other/different realm not needing to "know" the mechanics of "there".. This human experience just might be a mandatory test to spiritual suitabilty for that "there" experience.. Oversimplified?.. maybe..

But consideing "many" of these types of conversations.. it appears to me people do better with "simple".. All mannar of imaginings can come from that well in the ground(frog).. Counting the rocks on the wall(math) seems to be a common practice then to the shape((of the rocks)geometry).. True, its lonely in that well.. you must do something.. To think that, that, frog is not alone in that well.. the Holy Spirit is there to.. often/mostly ignored.. Theres a duality for you, the frog in the well ignoring the Holy Spirt.. Must think on that today.. Now theres a concept..

Sorry, Wesson drove me to it..

893 posted on 08/10/2006 6:12:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: hosepipe; Mark Felton; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA
After all a frog in a well seems to be limited to an either/or duality.. More than two options might be beyonds mans ability to comprehend..

Seems that way hosepipe. Seems to have something to do with Aristotle's law of the excluded middle. This recalls what Einstein said: "If two descriptions are mutually exclusive, at least one of them must be wrong."

And yet his friend Bohr tried to point out to Einstein that "even though the wave and particle behavior of an object are mutually exclusive, we need both to completely understand its properties." This is Bohr's famous "complementarity principle." As a "classical physicist," Einstein could never accept this.

At bottom, the question of "either/or" basically goes to the issue of what the observer wants to see. Yet to choose one (is it a particle or a wave?) does not extinguish the other. To insist that it does is to not have the complete description of the system.

Thank you hosepipe for your inspirational essay/post!

895 posted on 08/10/2006 6:29:31 AM PDT by betty boop (The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. -J.B.S. Haldane)
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To: hosepipe

I finally made the time your long (but KISSed!) post, and it was a delight to my heart, as all your posts are, dear hosepipe. Thank you for pinging me to it.


899 posted on 08/10/2006 5:18:02 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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