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To: tortoise; Alamo-Girl; marron; Physicist; cornelis; ckilmer; RightWhale; StJacques; PatrickHenry; ...
DNA can address a phase space that is vastly larger than it actually addresses in biology.

Come to think of it, that may be the entire point, tortoise: that DNA can "address" a phase space that is vastly larger than what gets expressed in or as "biology." (Sorry if I've modified your terms. From my point of view, the modification makes better sense.)

But does this tell us anything about how DNA acquires this capacity? Does it originate with DNA proper, or could it be the case that DNA (in addition to its basically "static" informational input to the living organism) mediates an "outside" information source as well; i.e., one of which it is not the cause?

How do we "model" a question like this so as to have hope of receiving a valid "answer?" Or do you expect the question is worthless?

875 posted on 02/21/2005 3:08:23 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop; tortoise
Thank you so much for the ping to your fascinating reply to tortoise!

tortoise: DNA can address a phase space that is vastly larger than it actually addresses in biology.

you: Come to think of it, that may be the entire point, tortoise: that DNA can "address" a phase space that is vastly larger than what gets expressed in or as "biology." (Sorry if I've modified your terms. From my point of view, the modification makes better sense.)

With regard to tortoise’s post, I would like to add that DNA is not an actor, it doesn’t “do” things. It is a message. As a message, however, it can indeed be applicable to “a phase space vastly larger than” biology suggests.

That is where your analysis is particularly fascinating to me, betty boop. Because it is not a phase plane but a phase space, the dimensional potential is huge. The Shannon theory is great, but dimensionally speaking it is grounded in spheres and not hypercubes.

So if the DNA is encoded for more than obvious 4D – then the appearance of randomness which is taken here to be deterministic chaos may be quite organized when seen as encoded for phase space hypercube communication.

Moreover, as you say, this would be very, very consistent with our suggestion that the will to live is field-like.

879 posted on 02/21/2005 10:19:58 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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