agreed........they are almost as bad as the DUmmies in some cases......pragmatism as you said is better than losing the whole thing and wondering what we did wrong....don't know why some conservatives are so extreme that they have to label everyone a RINO or traitor that doesn't agree with them.......
I post on these thread some, so that lurkers don't think that everyone thinks, like the unrealistic (to be charitable) few. Fortunately they are in a minority.
Most conservatives are indeed also sensible, and when the chips were down, they did vote for Arnold, and are not sorry for it, watching Arnold really making major changes, a step at a time.
"A jouney of a thousand miles begins with one step."
Den Schwartzie ist gut.