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To: ken21; Snapple

Those thugs are Ward Churchill's bodyguards - they are NOT A.I.M., and are not "Dog Soldiers", no matter what they may call themselves... There is only on A.I.M., and the "A.I.M" group in Denver that Ward Churchill fronts is as much of a fraud as Churchill is... The "Autonomous A.I.M" groups are NOT the American Indian Movement - they are the result of a split some time back, with Russell Means and Ward Churchill going off on their own and forming the "Autonomous AIM Chapters" or some such nonsense...

No, those thugs are merely thugs. Period. They aren't fit to shine a real Dog Soldiers' (Cheyenne warrior cociety of old) shoes... if Dog Soldiers wore shoes, that is...

I don't know where Snapple is getting this crap, but as someone who has relatives in A.I.M., I can say with all honesty that the only "Dog Soldiers" were the Cheyenne warrior society, and a fabricated F.B.I. "group" back in the 70s...


18 posted on 02/12/2005 9:56:08 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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" To:
All AIM Chapters, Representatives, members, Indian organizations and people and Organizations in Solidarity with Indian People


"From:
Vernon Bellecourt,
National Representative and Founding Board member American Indian Movement

"Date: August 7,1995
"This memorandum should be considered by all interested persons and organizations as official notice that a person identifying himself as Bobby Castillo is not now nor in the past a leader, representative, or member of the American Indian Movement (AIM).
"Bobby Castillo, after he was released from federal prison, showed up at the office of The International Indian Treaty Council in San Francisco, California offering his services as a part-time volunteer.

"Almost immediately upon his arrival, the staff at IITC began to have some serious concerns regarding a pattern of disturbing and disruptive incidents involving Mr. Castillo. For these reasons on December 1, 1993 Bobby Castillo was expelled from IITC activities and office. IITC is the International diplomatic and political arm of the American Indian Movement.

"Mr. Castillo then self-proclaimed himself a leader in the American Indian Movement. Which fraudulent representation, he continues to perpetrate nationally and internationally. We continue to get reports from friends and supporters nationally and internationally on how he disrupts and distorts the true philosophy of the American Indian Movement.

"Bobby Castillo is a phony, fraud, and a wannabee. According to people who know him, he has always identified with his Hispanic roots. Only upon release from prison did he began to identify with an Indian tribe.

"More serious, he is one of approximately fourteen persons, some the targets of American Indian Movement Internal and External Security ongoing investigations as being agent/operatives for the FBI/CIA attempts to divide and destroy the American Indian Movement.

"Along with the following suspected government agents, conspirators and/or collaborators or dupes, Bobby Castillo, David Hill, Ward Churchill, Russell Means, Glen Morris, Bob Robideaux, Joe Locust Sr., Sharon Venne, George Martin, Donald Grinde Jr., Dian Million and Shelly Davis have tried to divide and destroy the American Indian Movement.

"By declaring the existence of a so called confederation of autonomous american indian movement, they have been able to dupe several Indian people and communities into playing into their game of dividing the movement.

"These persons whom are misled are requested to contact the National Office of the American Indian Movement for official sanctioning and recognition.

"Bobby Castillo has been put on notice that he is to cease and desist from fraudulently representing The American Indian Movement. we ask all American Indian Movement members, friends, supporters and organizations world wide to assist us in our efforts to isolate Bobby Castillo and the listed co-conspirators and/or collaborators.

"If you have information on any of these individuals write, telephone, or fax."

American Indian Movement
National Office
PO Box 13521
Minneapolis, MN 55414
Telephone: (612) 721-3914
Fax: (612) 721-7826
This letter is sanctioned by AIM's Founding Board of Directors: Larry Anderson-Dine Navaho, Dennis Banks-Anishanabe, Clyde Bellecourt-Anishanabe, William A. Means-Oglala Lakota, Herb Powless-Oneida, Carol Standing Elk-Dakota Further, this letter has been certified as legitimate and current by Vernon Bellecourt as of 11.5.96. A list of "legitimate" AIM Chapters should be available for distribution by the first of next year.


19 posted on 02/12/2005 10:01:00 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I don't think my posts are "crap" at all.

The Indian Country Today have seen Churchill with his AIM security during his appearances.

I said that these may be called the Dog Soldiers. They may or may not be "real" Dog Soldiers in your opinion, but they may be called Dog Soldiers and they may have a security/enforcement function.

I agree that there are two different organizations that claim to be the "real" AIM. (I have tried to make this point in many posts on this topic.)

To me, this is like saying that if two parties or two religioons split which is the "real" party. I don't have a dog in this fight, so I just say there are two AIM organizations.

Ward Churchill was with AIM many years ago before it split. He may have been the person who cooked up the "Mr X" interview. Who can say.

I agree his is an intellectually dishonest person, but I don't have much use for either organization that calls itself AIM.

However, I have been speaking and usually clarifying that I mean the Denver/Boulder/Ward Churchill/Lee Hill AIM.



24 posted on 02/12/2005 10:32:06 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I think we can agree that Ward Churchill has security. I have heard they may be called Dog Soldiers.

Let's keep watching.


25 posted on 02/12/2005 10:35:00 AM PST by Snapple
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