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Poll Shocker: NY'ers Call Hillary Honest
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 12, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 02/12/2005 8:24:00 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

Though she barely escaped prosecution just a few years ago for making false statements to federal investigators, New Yorkers now believe that Sen. Hillary Clinton is a truthful person.

Nearly two-thirds of Empire Staters - 64 percent - told a Quinnipiac University survey last week that the former first lady was "honest and trustworthy." Thirty percent disagreed.

Even among Republicans, 38 percent gave Hillary high marks for honesty. Among Democrats, the figure was a sky-high 85 percent.

Quinnipaic's polling director Maurice Carroll said Hillary's new honesty numbers were a big improvement from the old days.

"When Clinton took office four years ago, her husband had just pardoned Marc Rich and the Clintons were accused of looting White House furniture," he noted. Sounding somewhat bewildered, Carroll mused, "Now? Two-thirds of New Yorkers say she's a good - and honest - Senator."

'Honest' Hillary's new image also has to come as a shock to former independent counsel Robert Ray, who nearly indicted her for lying in the Travelgate scandal.

"Mrs. Clinton . . . played a role in the decision to fire the [travel office] employees and thus, her statement to the contrary under oath to this office is factually false," Ray said in his final report on the imbroglio.

Despite the scathing conclusion, the top lawman gave the first lady the benefit of the doubt and didn't file charges, saying he couldn't prove she knew her testimony was false.

Ray's predecessor, Ken Starr, also came perilously close to fling charges against Hillary for her Whitewater fibs.

In their book "Truth at any Cost," reporters Susan Schmidt and Michael Weisskopf detailed a 1998 meeting between Starr's lead prosecutor Hickman Ewing and his legal team in Little Rock, where they weighed indicting Hillary:

"[Ewing] paced the room for more than three hours, recalling facts from memory," Schmidt and Weisskopf reported. "He spoke passionately, laying out a case that the first lady had obstructed government investigators and made false statements about her legal work for [Jim] McDougal's S&L, particularly the thrift's notorious multimillion-dollar Castle Grande real estate project."

However, Ewing's case against Mrs. Clinton had been severely weakened by the fact that Mr. McDougal had died a month before.

"Without him, prosecutors would have a hard time describing the S&L dealings they suspected Hillary Clinton had lied about," Schmidt and Weisskopf said.

Another person sure to be shocked by Hillary's new reputation for honesty is media mogul Steven Brill, who accused her of falsely claiming she helped 9/11 victim families while he was writing his 2003 book, "After."

Brill told WABC Radio that her staff had provided him with "an elaborate story, with an elaborate subtext of memos and phone calls - a long, long story" detailing Hillary's meetings with 9/11 relatives.

But after checking with the families themselves, Brill said, "None of it turned out to be true . . . They gave me documents and phone calls and things like that which just plain never happened."


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bluestatemorons; hillary; honest; saveamerica; stophillary; trustworthy
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To: isom35
"....how about hiring look-a-likes of Foster and McDougal to appear near Hillary anytime she's in the public?...."

I think it's a great idea and could possibly cause Hillary to have Lady Macbeth moment.....("out, out, damn spot")

61 posted on 02/12/2005 10:34:53 AM PST by Victor
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To: leenie312

Your post raises a question for which I never could figure an answer. And I was graduated from high school about 90 miles up the Hudson form NYC.


62 posted on 02/12/2005 11:10:24 AM PST by GladesGuru
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To: Phsstpok

Mmmmmmn - COFFEE!

Actually, I had my caffeine level adjusted before i read your post. But having dealt with Liberals, nothing would surprise me.

PS Mom once chaired the Dept. of Nursing at Quinnipaic College. Nice people on the faculty, but largely watermelons. Just the ususal for America's "academic' community in this late post Dewey era.


63 posted on 02/12/2005 11:14:23 AM PST by GladesGuru
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To: GladesGuru
Nice people on the faculty, but largely watermelons.

LOL. That image will stick with me all day.

64 posted on 02/12/2005 11:16:46 AM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Carl/NewsMax; RoseofTexas; unixfox; hosepipe; demkicker; Clemenza; Cacique
THE RETURN OF ROBO-BITCH:

With 50% More Sincerity!

65 posted on 02/12/2005 12:14:19 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: cripplecreek
"Quinnipiac University survey"

The only relevant info I can see.

And that's pushing it......

66 posted on 02/12/2005 12:57:30 PM PST by Osage Orange ("Political interest can never be separated in the long run from moral right" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
What they don't tell us is the question was....

If you had to choose between Son of Sam, the Boston Red Sox, and Hillary Clinton...who's more honest?

67 posted on 02/12/2005 1:01:26 PM PST by Osage Orange ("Political interest can never be separated in the long run from moral right" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: conservativecorner

They can do a Hillary Special once per week. 2 small breasts and 2 large thighs.<<<<<<<


You forgot to include the left wing.


68 posted on 02/12/2005 2:11:41 PM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

<< .... the Clintons were accused of looting White House furniture .... >>

"Accused of?"

Rubbish.

The lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, treasonous, co-serial-rapist gangster bastards were plain and simple caught red-handed.

And were forced to return truckloads of loot.


69 posted on 02/12/2005 3:53:38 PM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

"...shocker?" That's not a shocker. NY-ers are even wanting to nominate Hillary Guiliuliuani to run against her. ...same thing from both parties.


70 posted on 02/12/2005 4:49:41 PM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

...for the presidency, even, BTW. Have we considered, by any chance, maybe building a fence around NY?


71 posted on 02/12/2005 4:50:38 PM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Oh, and Carl, thank you very much. The information in that column is important to disseminate. There is quite a New Yuk effort to set Giuliani up as our Republican nominee for the presidency--a ploy to put Hillary in the Office, of course.

But we won't let that happen.


72 posted on 02/12/2005 4:55:02 PM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Jim McDougal's dead........

John Kennedy's dead......

How convenient!

Go, Hill, go, on your broomstick!

73 posted on 02/12/2005 4:59:58 PM PST by mickie
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McCain: Hillary Would Be Good President
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On News/Activism 02/20/2005 8:29:47 AM PST · 479 replies · 8,732+ views

74 posted on 02/22/2005 12:32:14 AM PST by reformjoy
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