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Bible lessons on school time raise eyebrows
The Washington Times ^ | February 12, 2005 | Zinie Chen Sampson

Posted on 02/12/2005 2:05:44 AM PST by Kaslin

STAUNTON, Va. — Heather and Logan Ward moved from New York to Virginia's Shenandoah Valley four years ago because they wanted a simpler life.
Like many recent transplants, the Wards were pleased to discover Staunton's grand Victorian architecture, a vibrant downtown and "a lot of open-minded, progressive people."
But when their son entered public kindergarten this past fall, they discovered that pupils leave classrooms for weekly Bible lessons, a tradition in Staunton and other communities in rural Virginia for more than 60 years.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; education; religiouseducation; shenandoahvalley; staunton; traditions
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To: Always Right
If the kids left school to be indoctronated into the gay lifestyle, there would not be a story here.

Exactly

21 posted on 02/12/2005 4:00:25 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: YankeeGirl
This case seems like a local tradition that is not being forced on anyone. If the parents are so concerned, why don't they have their kids work on homework or read for that time if they are not interested in the Bible lessons.

Great point

Btw I was born and raised in Germany and we also had religous classes in school Tuesdays and Fridays. The protestant children went to protestant classes and we catholic children went to catholic classes. On Tuesdays we studied catechism and on Fridays the bible.

22 posted on 02/12/2005 4:08:04 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

We did this in rural New York State in the 1950s and early 1960s and nobody said a word. We were glad to get out of school for an hour and would not have cared whether it was Bible study or making paper chains.

I can't understand people who move next to a runway and complain about the noise, people who drive across the street to a restaurant and complain about traffic and pollution, and people who move to an American small town in the Old Confederacy and complain about the free exercise of religion.


23 posted on 02/12/2005 4:08:34 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: Kaslin

If some idiot liberal moved to THIS rural area and started that crap their whole family would be shunned so thoroughly that their house would be up for sale in one month or less and they'd be moving back to the city. The last person who even told anyone they were a democrat was a woman who drank too much at a neighborhood Fourth of July party and told everyone she was voting for Kerry. She hasn't been invited to a community party since. They ought to start doing that in this Virginia community.


24 posted on 02/12/2005 4:09:35 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Kaslin
I am a devout Evangelical Christian, but I do not want the Bible, Koran or any other religious book taught in the government schools, other than voluntarily participation.

On the other hand I do not want children penalized if they want to draw, write, etc. about religious themes.
25 posted on 02/12/2005 4:14:47 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Kaslin
Ward...."Unless we build a wall around our city, we're going to have to deal with the changing demographics," she said. "That's just part of modern life."

Why don't ya just get on the same bus that brought you here and take your disruptive crap somewhere else?

26 posted on 02/12/2005 4:16:38 AM PST by patriot_wes (When I see two guys kissin..argh! Is puking a hate crime yet?)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

No, there is nothing wrong with a test. I was born and raised in Germany and when I went to school there we also had religous classes. They were twice a week, Tuesdays and Fridays. The protestant kids went to protestant classes and we catholic kids went to catholic classes. On Tuesdays we studies catechism and on Friday we studied the bible. Our priest always had us do homework and then in the next class we had to repeat aloud the part he had us given to study at home. I never had to study though because I was always one of the last ones he asked, and I just repeated to myself what the other kids that were before me said. By the time it was my turn, I was able to say the whole thing. If he by any chance he asked me first, then I just told him I did not study.


27 posted on 02/12/2005 4:18:14 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: mariabush

Well they arent' exactly taught in goverment school. the children leave the school and are taught in churches


28 posted on 02/12/2005 4:20:43 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
" Heather and Logan Ward moved from New York to Virginia's Shenandoah Valley four years ago because they wanted a simpler life.

Typical situation.Ask anyone who lives in rural communities on a line north of NYC what it is like when these urbanites leave the big city for a quiet lifestyle.

The first thing they complain about is the smell from farms that they just moved next to.
Than it is school programs which almost always lead to higher taxes to pay for them.

They seem to expect everyone to kiss their behinds and cater to their demands.
Some how they hate the city life yet can`t shake the big city liberal mentality.

29 posted on 02/12/2005 4:32:08 AM PST by carlr
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To: Kaslin

Here where I live we call these people "Come Downers" . They come down here to live because we have a good community then they go out of their way to spoil it.


30 posted on 02/12/2005 4:35:25 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002
Here in Texas we used to pray before football games for the protection of the players on both teams, until someone got offended. I do believe they still do it in the town my wife is from and the one where her parents now live, but not in the bigger schools.

I believe it was Paul , who said by the Spirit of God that men should pray always, lifting up holy hands without wrath or doubting. Everywhere means a football game too.

31 posted on 02/12/2005 4:46:01 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Kaslin

The words "self-centered twit" come to mind. I hope the town fathers smile patiently and then call out "next!"


32 posted on 02/12/2005 4:53:51 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: sgtbono2002

"Come Downers"

I like that! I guess here we sould call them "Come Uppers" since this is up in the hills above the city. We can always spot the spoilsport newbies at the HOA meetings and neighborhood parties-they're the ones who want the HOA to make everyone park their cars in their garages and paint their house trim the same "approved" colors, etc. When no one listens to them, they will decide country living isn't what they expected, sell their house and move back to the city. And good riddance to them...


33 posted on 02/12/2005 4:57:16 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Kaslin
You are right! I should have read the rest of the story. Now that I have, just what is these parents problem? Their child is not being exposed to beliefs contrary to their own.

As for taxpayer funds, I just imagine that the parents of the school children are paying property taxes that go to the schools.

These carpetbaggers should pack up and move to a rural Northern state.
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34 posted on 02/12/2005 4:59:30 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Kaslin
"a lot of open-minded, progressive people."

"open minded" "Progressive people" Orwellian Newspeak For close minded against the religion and traditions of the founding fathers..The Real America

imo

35 posted on 02/12/2005 5:08:26 AM PST by joesnuffy (If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
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To: Kaslin; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...

"School time"?! The schools and secularists OWN THE TIME?


36 posted on 02/12/2005 5:22:58 AM PST by A. Pole (Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: Kaslin; Convert from ECUSA; trumandogz; bahblahbah; Always Right; All

I would like to add to my previous post (#7) that Bible lessons are important as much as History, Math and Science lessons in Israel, because a nation that doesn't know its past, can't understand its present, and won't be able to survive in the future- especially a nation as Israel.

The Bible is THE history of Israel and is THE key for understanding ourselves (ourselves- Israelis) today, and therefore Bible lessons in Israel's schools are taught very well.


37 posted on 02/12/2005 5:24:12 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Texan5

One of the Quotes here is that the road that brought you here goes both ways, If you dont like it take that road the hell back to where you came from.


38 posted on 02/12/2005 5:29:35 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Kaslin
Without the classes, he said, "kids get into trouble and have no moral structure on which to combat drugs, sex, pornography and all that."


Renee Staton, a Staunton native whose husband is Jewish, questioned that argument because the schools already have character-education classes."

"...the schools already have character-education classes." Yes, and look how wonderfully they're working!!

/sarc>

39 posted on 02/12/2005 5:40:54 AM PST by pigsmith
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To: mariabush

These carpetbaggers should pack up and move to a rural Northern state.




No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


40 posted on 02/12/2005 5:44:22 AM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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