Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net

The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

[Mr. Mojo]

"Mr. Mojo beleives that Sen. Martinez is a bigger devil than Ted Kennedy.

lol.....not even close, obviously.

As I said in an earlier post, Martinez (thankfully) appears to be in the minority on this issue -- the minority who desires cultural assimilation.

[KiloLima]

On the bright side I met some FReepers I never really knew and found kindred spirit and that is always refreshing....

Me, too. I am always meeting great new-to-me people on FR, and this time especially.

Thanks for the ping and that was a very nice post.

[inquest]

IMO, with Sen. Martinez's saying three sentences in Spanish, Mr. Mojo beleives that Sen. Martinez is a bigger devil than Ted Kennedy.

Is "cognitive illiteracy" an actual term? If not, it needs to be invented for you.

[Safrguns]

It's all Bush's fault!

[Dane]

Is "cognitive illiteracy" an actual term? If not, it needs to be invented for you

Whatever, I will wear my picture as the defintion of "cognitive illetracy" in the buchannan uber alles dictionary, as a badge of honor.

No problem.

[FITZ]

A guestworker program won't do that. Immigration reform will and the president has only proposed a guestworker program.

True. A real temporary guest worker plan --- while we give the Mexican government a chance to shape up or ship out, that would allow seasonal workers to be flown or bussed in ---- round trip and expenses paid by the employer who claims to need them so much. Family and friends and the rest of the village remain home, the "guest stay" would be for no more than 3 or 4 months --- the harvest season for example and the guest would be returned home.

[inquest]

...buchannan uber alles...

Yup, the "badge" you're wearing fits perfectly.

[k2blader]

I thought we already had a guest worker program, for *legal* immigrants? Why can't we just stick to that, expand it if necessary?

[Dane]

Yup, the (buchanan) "badge" you're wearing fits perfectly

LOL! You haven't been here too long have you. I was here when the pitchforkers who, IMO hate Jews and Hispanic Catholics(funny since buchannan himself almost proclaims himself as an American Pope, he likes all all Catholics, except those without white skin, IMO)), tried to take over this forum.

I fought them then, and I fight them(you) now.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"The border issue has been the most in the news."

I believe that the border issue will be the cornerstone of Senator Rodham-Clinton's thrust into pulling votes from the center-right in the 2008 race for the White House.

With the DNC's continuing move to the left, a "centrist" Hillary! will surface to splinter votes from both parties.

Hillary Clinton...the next Ross Perot.

[FITZ]

. It is as if Fox has something he's holding over Bush, but I can't figure out what it is.

What I actually think it could be --- from observing every time a corrupt Mexican official brings up the "guest worker amnesty" plan they not so subtly bring up "our national security" --- as if the two are tied somehow. We open the borders to all Mexicans and those borders become somehow more secure. It doesn't make sense except that they must be threatening that they can just as easily work a deal with Al Queda if we don't give them what they want. Extortion.

[inquest]

Now you're just slipping into normal illiteracy. I actually gave you too much credit.

[inquest]

Center-right? Does this mean you're admitting that the administration is out of touch with the mainstream on this issue?

[Dan from Michigan]

ALIPAC and Tabor's site are two of them.

It's about hits and donations and/or advertising dollars. Strictly business.

[Dane]

Now you're just slipping into normal illiteracy. I actually gave you too much credit

Gee, if I was illiterate, how could you read and respond to the replies I write.

Whew you all are getting worse and worse and digging yourselves a deeper hole with your banal replies.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I saw that after I posted it, I meant to say far-right and center-left.

[FITZ]

Because revolutions are often violent, and people tend to want to flee violence just as they like to flee hunger and want.

Toppling the corrupt government of Iraq also required a little violence---- but now look --- Bush worked his magic and Iraq is a free democrat country with no more problems. If a little bloodshed and violence is worth it on the other side of the world --- why do you fear Mexicans overthrowing their corrupt elite?

Plus you're only assuming these peaceful hard working illegals pouring over the borders are really just very violent thugs who couldn't work for peaceful reforms in their own country. They are Mexico's would be middle class --- all that really needs to happen is the corrupt elite allow for a middle class and all the important changes to allow for one.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Center left belonged to Bush these past elections.

[international american]

Yep, and I noticed when I called her on it, she pretended I was never born:). They all do the same thing; ignore a reasoned argument, and when painted into a corner, spew insults, and resort to outrageous allegations, like "go back to DU, or "you love buchanan", or even funnier " you are a hillary supporter"

Pitiful.

[inquest]

Another possibility is that the Bush administration is ideologically committed to a hemispheric zone of free movement. Many backers of the FTAA (which the leaders of both parties enthusiastically support, but for some reason keep from the public debate) openly acknowledge that its purpose is to create something akin to the EU here in the Americas. Keeping the border unguarded would fit in with that ideological bent.