Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson
The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.
The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.
Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.
Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.
Don't know what happened to that second colony, it was never found.
I have no idea what you were trying to say by that post but none of it even applies to the situation at Roanoke. Of course considering one of the local tribes may have very well taken the colonists in, kind of throws out your whole argument of fear doesn't it?
"I hope there's no truth to these stories."
Come on and give Jim Robinson some credit please. If there is any truth to this then where are all of the trolls? Surely they would come here with some evidence. The people that run this board are right to clear out some of the bad news posters. We should not be "condeming President Bush's stance" we should be condemning the stance of Mr. Gheen, that wacko Tancredo, and their buddies over at Stormfront.
The problem with the "guest worker" proposal is in the enforcement, the creation of yet-another bureaucracy to administer same, and then there's the generous 3-year time limit, at the end of which, the "guest worker" will return to country of origin. . . ? There is no guarantee.
Before we even contemplate a "guest worker" program, we need to seal the porous border and face the fact that we have criminals in our midst: persons who entered this country illegally, remain illegally and a great number of whom reside in our prisons.
Oh by the way, I didn't start the blasting of tancredo, the former federal education dept. employee(tom tancredo), started the blasting towards me.
Can you show me a link where Tom Tancredo is personally attacking you, I would imagine he has more important things on his mind or maybe you're referring to something else??
It includes some fascinating details about this epoch, especially as it concerns the-at times, fitful-attempts on the part of Elizabethen England to settle sections of North and South America.
Look up the word sarcasm when you have a free moment.
Actually,it happens because the debater on one side of the argument continues to restate a conviction. He is not really debating and he cannot make any compromises or moderate a conviction. Nobody can! It is the nature of a conviction.
At some point, the argument or actually a lack of true debate causes ulterior motives to be tossed into the mix.
Luis, you appear to be saying that the irrational fear is theoretical. I may have misread your statement, or you may not have written what you were thinking.
Did you read my post about what my parents and uncle had to do in Phoenix in order to live without fear? This isn't theoretical, it's real. The enclaves of new immigrants, many of whom I know are illegal, in the Phoenix area are changing our culture for the worse.
I, for one, have no intention of standing by and letting that change continue. I will do what I can, whether it be e-mails and letters to my congressmen or an information campaign in my community, or posting and bumping threads on FR, to keep it from continuing to get worse.
Our only outside influence should be stopping people from coming into this country illegally, and sending the ones here illegally back to their own countries.
The revolution would instantly have over 10 million troops.
Well we can see who these fruit cakes really are now. Not only do they want to penalize infants born on American soil, they want to deprive children that are brought to America an education.
Take a look at this tripe from their manifesto.
5. Oppose amnesty and college admittance for illegal immigrants. Some lawmakers are currently planning to offer amnesty to the 15 million illegal immigrants in the US. This will lead to another decade of unprecedented illegal immigration. Some also want to allow illegal immigrants to enroll at public universities at “in state” tuition rates. The “Dream America Act” will cost legal citizens billions of dollars and encourage more illegal immigration.
So, the PC police arrive to play the race card and to smear anyone who sees the multiculturism crap for what it is and wants to preserve American culture rather than continue to stand idly by and watch its slow but steady strangulation by those who advocate and promote unwise immigration policies.
I reject any notion that insisting on carefully crafted immigration policies to stop the flood of illegal aliens and to otherwise control and monitor legal immigration to preserve our culture, is racist. You don't like it--tough. With respect to the Japanese internment, in the context of the times I do not condemn it. You think 9/11 was the end of our terrorist problems in this country? Not if, but when, the next terrorist event comes, lets check back and see how you feel about internment then--or would you like to see the same flood of Muslims into America as we continue to experience with illegal aliens?
That's fine, but the civil outcome as it should be would not end up with charges of racism when is there none but rather a stalemate, or the more polite: "let's agree to disagree".
The frustration from those on the other side comes from the fact popular opinion is not with them, and besides name-calling in the past has proven effective at shutting people up.
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