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To: sinkspur; jveritas
All of this hell-raising is just that. Does anybody see the American voter up in arms about immigration?

There are two groups "up in arms" about immigration. On the left you have Hillary, the Democrats, and the media who are using the issue to try and damage President Bush and the Republican Party. Then there are those on the right, the Buchanan/Tancredo crowd, (about 1%-1.5% of voters) that also want to destroy President Bush and the Republican Party. The Democrats want their power back. The Buchanan crowd wants to punish the Republican Party for rejecting their ideas. If the American people were so "up in arms" over the President's immigration proposal, we'd be talking right now about President John F. Kerry's full amnesty plan.

For most people, they support reasonable immigration policies, not some of the irrational things we've heard suggested like millions of troops on the border, billions for a wall/fence, or vigilante groups roaming the desert looking for illegals. Do we need to control the border? Of course. Should we let people come here legally to work? Of course.

51 posted on 02/11/2005 5:23:58 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145
I'd be very fascinated to see what an opinion poll would look like regarding a proposal to spend a mere 1% of the federal budget on a security fence. Especially after making people aware of how well a similar fence has worked in Israel. I think you'd find it quite educational.
52 posted on 02/11/2005 5:33:08 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: COEXERJ145
There are two groups "up in arms" about immigration. On the left you have Hillary, the Democrats, and the media who are using the issue to try and damage President Bush and the Republican Party. Then there are those on the right, the Buchanan/Tancredo crowd, (about 1%-1.5% of voters) that also want to destroy President Bush and the Republican Party.

This is exactly why you're opinion on the subject isn't worth a d*mn.

I strongly suggest you consider there may be other good reasons to be up in arms about immigration.

56 posted on 02/11/2005 5:44:39 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: COEXERJ145

Great post.


60 posted on 02/11/2005 7:59:24 PM PST by jveritas
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To: COEXERJ145

>"billions for a wall/fence, ..."<

_ You have no problem with the U.S. spending an additional $80,000,000,000 (BILLION) dollars for IRAQ's *SECURITY*, do you?

Then why would you oppose our country spending a tenth of that (1/10th, 10%) for a security fence that would:
PROTECT U.S. CITIZENS LIVES AND PRIVATE PROPERTY?

Or is that too noble of a concept for your mind to grasp?

George Washington said it best:
“Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground?”

http://www.usconstitution.com/FarewellAddressPresidentGeorgeWashington.htm



89 posted on 02/11/2005 11:37:00 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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