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Incendiary in Academia May Now Find Himself Burned
NY Times ^ | February 11, 2005 | KIRK JOHNSON

Posted on 02/10/2005 9:36:59 PM PST by neverdem

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Mark Leffingwell/Daily Camera, via Associated Press
Ward Churchill, a University of Colorado professor who compared World Trade Center victims to Nazis, talked with reporters after his class.

Chris Schneider/Rocky Mountain News via Associated Press
A University of Colorado history professor, Eric Love, left, made a point while debating Isaiah Lechowit, president of the College Republicans.

1 posted on 02/10/2005 9:36:59 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Howard Dean finally has some competition for leader of the DNC.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 9:39:37 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

To bad they don't mean burned at the stake. What a pathetic loser this guy is.


3 posted on 02/10/2005 9:46:26 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: neverdem

Since the University is already hemhorraging for funds. I do believe that CU Alumni can sit on, spend, or find better uses for future contributions to their Alma Mater.

Someone's going to cave. And I don't think it's going the be the students this time.

Jack.


4 posted on 02/10/2005 9:51:42 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: neverdem

Interesting picture. The photographer and/or editor obviously picked a shot that makes the Republican look unattractive. But I was glad to see that he at least wasn't letting the menacing-looking leftie professor intimidate him. A sign of progress.


5 posted on 02/10/2005 9:51:59 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: neverdem

Don't you love the pictures which show an angle (from below) that makes Churchill look imposing and show the Republican President look like he's unhinged. No, there's no bias there!


6 posted on 02/10/2005 10:04:51 PM PST by winner3000
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To: neverdem
There seems to be more than a little confusion over where freedom ends and license begins. One would think that the freedom to say something of a radical nature doesn't absolve one of the possible consequinces of the statement.

On top of all that this guy strikes me as being a typical ivory tower putz who drips arrogance with every word.

7 posted on 02/10/2005 10:18:32 PM PST by Adrastus (I am locked and loaded with a clear field of fire.)
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To: neverdem
"Others worry that subjects like Sept. 11 have become "sacred," and cordoned off from unpopular analysis."

"Others" need some basic logic. 9/11 is not something I would euphemistically call a subject, but the point is verbal diahrea emanating from the likes of Mr. Churchill hardly meets any rigorous standard of analysis. Good try though.

"Two sides are being presented without a lot of people listening, said Joe Flasher, 24, a graduate student in astrophysics. "You already have your opinion, right. So it's one person saying what they think and then the other person saying the complete opposite. It seems very polarized. But I guess it is the ultimate exercise in free speech."

Everyone has the right to free speech, but what our young astrophysicist has to learn is that I also have the right to ignore it. The problem today, young folks assume that free speech somehow confers legitimacy to said speech we are required to actually take it seriously or at face value. Not all opinions are equal or valid! Free speech does not insulate one from criticism and ridicule. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but they do not have the right to be wrong in the facts used to support their opinion.
8 posted on 02/10/2005 10:23:46 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: neverdem
Laura Ingraham played a bunch of clips today (er, I guess it's yesterday by now) from Churchill's recent speech at UC in Boulder, where he was trying to defend his previous comments.

Sorry if the link requires a subscription, just google: Churchill Boulder Speech. Oh!, wait a sec, Ingraham has a link on her site to the Denver Post story.

What a whackjob! To quote another liberal whack, Larry O'Donnell, Churchill's a "creepy liar", with demented and fruit loops on top. I'd enjoy scalping the MF.

Churchill can say anything he wants, but the fact that he's probably lived his whole life off my tax dollars pisses me off.

I've got a brother (and his wife) who are liberal and they've both lived their whole professional lives off Gubmint grants. Something about living off the taxpayer's nipple turns people liberal.

Brother and Sislaw not whacks like this guy, just birkenstock granoly Kerry voters. Really great parents and all that. Besides, they both have PHd's in hard sciences and do good work for the rest of us in their labs, so I don't begrudge them their views.

After Ingraham, Hannity had on the guy that introduced Churchill at the speech, Russell Means, and, after putting up with him for while, tore him a new one.

Hannity ended up screaming at him. I can't remember exactly, but I think Hannity kept screaming "you're a scumbag!" at him. It was great!

p.s. I'm a few years younger than you, but had an appointment to the Naval Academy (Pop was a Col. so I was halfway there, the other half came from an NJ Eyetie Congressman).

I wanted the Naval Academy because I bought a little bike in high school and had developed a "need for speed". I asked Pop, and he said the best fighter jocks in the world were Naval Aviators.

They turned me down after the physical when I failed the color-blindness test. I didn't even know I was color-blind!

I still think about how different my life would have been, if I've been able to fly jets and kill bad guys, shortened though it might have been. I really wouldn't have minded.

9 posted on 02/10/2005 10:26:04 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To bad they don't mean burned at the stake. What a pathetic loser this guy is.

I wonder if this putz has a bodyguard. He may need one.

10 posted on 02/10/2005 10:27:29 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: neverdem
You'll notice that Kirk Johnson of the NYT does not address the fact of Churchill lying about his own ethnicity in order to get this affirmative-action job at CU in the first place. That's the larger issue that splats egg on the face of the university.

It takes more than long hair, sunglasses and maybe a beaded headband to turn an English-Swiss-German into am American Indian!

11 posted on 02/10/2005 10:29:24 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: neverdem
If this idiot had used the N-Word, he'd already be long gone. This has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech.
12 posted on 02/10/2005 10:29:58 PM PST by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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Hadn't heard that Hannity had Russell Means on. Poor guy - I can't for the life of me tolerate Means. I've had the bad misfortune to have met him a number of times. He's an arrogant (insert lots of long, drawn out, and very foul venacular here), and doesn't have the brains of the average snail.

It takes a lot of balls to be the "heap big all-knowing Injun" when you had to learn how to put up a tipi from an Irishman. (True story; Means learned how from a friend of mine.)


13 posted on 02/10/2005 10:30:15 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like left-wing Churchills... thank goodness!)
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Someone's going to cave. And I don't think it's going the be the students this time.

It's not a free speech issue. It's an honesty issue. Churchill obtained his position under false pretenses -- he has no Native American blood. And, evidently, he never saw combat in Viet Nam and he wasn't a Ranger. Seems to have been a fork lift operator...

14 posted on 02/10/2005 10:31:13 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: bootyist-monk

He used the N-word back when he affiliated himself with the Black Panthers. Unfortunately, he wasn't dark enough for them. Seems that he's not red enough for the tribal folk, either. Maybe someday he'll figure out what he really is...


15 posted on 02/10/2005 10:31:25 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like left-wing Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Adrastus

Free speech is a right...but no one has the right to subsidized free speech.


16 posted on 02/10/2005 10:32:19 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: neverdem
I would have to bet that this two-bit phony has had Venereal Disease a few times in his life.

Check his brain for Syphilis and then check it for dope.

He looks like an unoriginal, self-centered dopehead.

17 posted on 02/10/2005 10:35:03 PM PST by joe_broadway (The Democrat party is an ACLU cult.)
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To: neverdem
It hardly surprises me that the institutionally mendacious NY Times presents this excrescence as some sort of poster boy for free speech. They are as fraudulent as he in their way and have been at it longer.

In point of fact, the University of Colorado will suffer, and not because Mr. Churchill has used inflammatory speech, but because he's a fake and a lousy professor. That doesn't count for much in academia these days, but it does to anyone who's about to plunk down a life savings for an education.

18 posted on 02/10/2005 10:40:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

Churchill is nothing but a pompous windbag.
He even advertises it by wearing his cool shades indoors.

Didn't everybody know a kid like Churchill in high school? You know - - the kid who was always first to jump on the latest "style" bandwagon, whether it be Nehru collars or bell-bottom pants or "box" haircuts? And who was, to the core, a "follower" (never a leader) and who was so painfully aware of that fact that he was often irrationally contrarian in order to affect "rebelliousness" and "self-confidence"?

That's Churchill, to the bone. The guy is still 16.

People like Churchill usually have very few (if any) truly close friends because they know that sooner or later, with growing familiarity, close friends may accidentally get a peek under the mask and then realize that the whole persona that they thought they knew was nothing but the phony facade of an insecure weakling. That realization is rarely endearing.

(I didn't really mean to psycho-analyze the little pissant, but man!, I sure wish his fifteen minutes would hurry up and be over.)


19 posted on 02/10/2005 10:46:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: winner3000

Churchill is so ugly that he even looks stupid!!
Barn Owl


20 posted on 02/10/2005 10:48:05 PM PST by Barn Owl ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - R.Reagan)
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