To: kingu
If you look at this thread, which I started, I began by pointing out that Churchill is surrounded by security/enforcement that I said I think are called Dog Soldiers.
My point is that these Dog Soldiers are scaring people in Boulder and they are also dangerous. I read they also cause trouble on reservations. One Boulder student said of churchill, "Everyone is scared of him."
All the people who claim to know about Indians have not discussed that. Do these AIM security cause trouble on reservations?? In Boulder? Shouldn't we notice if people are being intimidated/terrorized???
Since everyone is claiming expertise based on their Indian background, one of my ancestors was "one of the best known men in the Cherokee Nation." ["History of Northwest Arkansas", the chapter on Madison county, Page 1102.]
I actually don't know if he was Cherokee or not. But he moved from Virginia, to Tennessee and finally to Arkansas.
He was a clergyman.
His grandson/my great grandfather was a doctor to Indians.
He used to ride a horse to his patients, but after he hurt his leg he worked as a doctor in a Christian school for Indians. Many of the teachers/administators were Indians.
It was called Levering or "the L."
86 posted on
02/15/2005 7:16:21 PM PST by
Snapple
To: Snapple
All the people who claim to know about Indians have not discussed that. Do these AIM security cause trouble on reservations?? In Boulder? Shouldn't we notice if people are being intimidated/terrorized???
If "AIM security" caused trouble on reservations, chances are that the "security" would suddenly disappear. Most of the folks on the reservations have virtually no interest in AIM, at least not anymore; there's been far too much bad press about the organization.
Now, I can tell you that in 2000, Russell Means was arrested (briefly) by Navajo reservation police because he abused his then-wife and his father-in-law. He was arrested prior to that for abusing his previous wife. And he apparently divorced and remarried again, and the last I heard, the woman in question was being abused. That may be some trouble that's been caused on reservations, but I personally doubt that it has any relationship to AIM whatsoever. Similarly, most of the other people who claim to be "security" are usually just goons who look mean, but whether they've actually done anything other than get drunk is debatable.
As for Boulder or Denver, CO, yes, there's a handful of Indian activist-types who are led by Means and Churchill. And yes, they "cause trouble", if you think that causing trouble is looking menacing and decrying the government. They "cause trouble" by opening their mouths and inserting their feet. But I doubt seriously that they're all that intimidating to thinking, rational people. The college students may be in awe, though.
And finally, claiming experience on Indian background: I can say that I have no paperwork proof of tribal blood in my veins; I am not registered. I am, however, married to a tribal member, active in the local Native community in my private life, was the assistant editor of a Native American publication for years, have written tribal-oriented articles for major publications across the US, work in the Native community today, and am a double-major in American history and social anthropology with a specialization in Native American studies. Does this mean I'm the ultimate expert? Heck no. But it does mean that I'm pretty durned familiar with current political events in Native America, both on and off the reservation.
I apologize if it sounded as though I was touting my expertise previously, because that was not my intent. But hey, if you're going to tell us your background, I'll share mine. :)
89 posted on
02/15/2005 7:31:54 PM PST by
Ladypixel
(Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
To: Snapple; Ladypixel
My point is that these Dog Soldiers are scaring people in Boulder and they are also dangerous. I read they also cause trouble on reservations. One Boulder student said of churchill, "Everyone is scared of him."
Right, and it falls into your
tinfoil hat theory that AIM went and killed a kid beauty queen (JonBenet). I'll also bet that those same Boulder students are afraid of biker gangs, but I hope we're not going to try to connect that to the JonBenet case too.
As to trouble on reservations, loads of folks do that. Most especially drunks who beat their families. Domestic abuse is the most common violent crime on reservations, and of course, Russel Means has been charged with that at least a half dozen times.
I will go further and guarantee that more students at Boulder are intimidated by MECHA and the like than they are of the American Indian Studies program.
My point is that you seem to be focusing on a group that is more diverse than American Indians, and that's saying a lot when you consider there are over five hundred federally recognized nations. There are Dog Soldier societies on many reservations, most especially the Crow, Cheyenne, and Arapaho nations. They're some of the most supportive veterans groups that I've ever seen, and many have members that are on active service overseas.
That's where I'm coming from - one group that has nothing to do with the long history and tradition of Dog Soldiers playing thugs for a fake paper Indian.
91 posted on
02/15/2005 7:39:14 PM PST by
kingu
(Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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