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To: Snapple
I think that there are really these Dog Soldiers around Churchill.

There are people around Churchill, yes. They are not Dog Soldiers. The Dog Soldier societies would never have them - they have not been raised and taught properly, or else they would have been Dog Soldiers instead of goons. The Dog Soldier societies do not like people pretending to be Dog Soldiers.

The Indian papers also mention he shows up with his AIM security. Other witnesses have seen it, too.

The papers say that he shows up with security. Very few of them specify it as "AIM security", and even then, I would find it difficult at best to believe that it's AIM security, because I've seen what AIM security entails. To be blunt, AIM security is a slang phrase for "getting someone to look menacing and follow you". They don't /have/ organized security details... not even Denver.

I've extremely familiar with the Indian-owned and operated papers and publications. They are not infallible to the problems of tribal bias. For example, Indian Country Today is owned by the Oneida Nation - which means that anything in that publication which is Oneida in origin is a good story, and a lot of stuff around the Lakota tribe (and, for that matter, anything about the former editor of Indian Country Today) is slightly warped. Furthermore, Indian Country Today tries to distance itself from much of the AIM-related news out there, because the Oneida wishes to distance itself from AIM.

News From Indian Country (which is a different publication) is considerably less biased, and their articles do not list the security detail that supposedly follows Churchill as being AIM in any way. Either way you go about it, though, the Indian papers do have bias one way or another. It just depends on which direction the bias leans as to how the articles turn out.

Now you can say they aren't "really" Sog Soldiers but the people who killed Anna Mae Aquash wanted to be considered Dog Soldiers/were Dog Soldiers.

Actually, the people who killed Anna Mae Aquash were not Dog Soldiers. A Dog Soldier would have had nothing whatsoever to do with something like this. They may have called themselves Dog Soldiers, but it's more likely that the FBI's error (which Chad Fairbanks mentioned) is what got them that name. The people who likely killed Anna Mae are part of the goon squads who were common in the Pine Ridge issues in the 1970's. There were a great many fights between traditionals and non-traditionals in the last few decades, as well, and it's entirely possible that Anna Mae got killed over one of those fights, too.

I notice you focus quite intently on Anna Mae. Surprisingly enough, there were an awful lot of other people who were killed in similar circumstances; have you not read about those people?

You may say they aren't "real" Dog Soldiers, but that is what they seem to consider themselves.

No, actually. Most of the folks up in that area of the country /know/ what a Dog Soldier is, and if they're smart, they also know not to claim membership in a society that they're not a member of. That's a great way to get your family and tribe to throw you out. The clans and societies of the Plains tribes are not only social organizations, they're also spiritual organizations. The Dog Soldier Societies, I can say with all conviction, have never involved themselves in the Pine Ridge squabbling, nor have they involved themselves in AIM-related squabbles. Heck, most of the Dog Soldiers also avoid AIM. (At least the ones I know do, anyhow - they think AIM's rather pitiful.)
66 posted on 02/15/2005 6:19:26 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Ladypixel

Anna Mae was murdered. One has been convicted and more are sought. The killers were trying be be Dog Soldiers.

Indian Country Today specified AIM security was protecting Churchill. I posted that article.



69 posted on 02/15/2005 6:29:59 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

Anna Mae seems to have been killed because of what she knew about the murder of the FBI agents. See the trial of her killers. A lot has beeb in the Denver Post.


71 posted on 02/15/2005 6:32:15 PM PST by Snapple
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