Posted on 02/10/2005 8:44:07 PM PST by Snapple
Shhhhhh! Don't tell everyone our Sooper Sekrit Plan!
Ain't anything noble about this Haudenosaunee ;0)
Mmmmm... Government Cheese, and a 1-pound pad of butter. Yum!
Yeah, there are those uses. But I prefer to use it to beat my family after a 3-day drinking binge... ;0)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1336690/posts
AIM and JonBenet thread.
Just a teaser.
You GOTTA read it. I'm telling you, it's an absolute riot... especially the connection to Mount Rushmore via the internet...
Although in another thread, this person said, of AIM: "These American radicals are helping the terrorists."
Gotta love it.
There's a certain amount of facetious sarcasm with the incredulity there. My Dad taught N. American Indian history at the U of I for 4 years while he was getting his masters and running the ROTC program there. To this day (after an illustrious 18 year military career which included that teaching stint) he'll stand behind the plains and northwest tribes warrior societies having produced some of the finest tactical fighters to have walked the planet.
My personal favorite of that era is Chief Joseph of the Nez Pierce. I've often thought someone should have had the balls to have let them "slip by" when they ran them to ground shy of the Canadian border. That was an epic trek and fight...
I hear ya, and agree...
You may say they aren't "real" Dog Soldiers, but that is what they seem to consider themselves.
That's kind of like equating some guys who dress in camo, call themselves Rangers and go around beating up people with the real deal. It's not becoming to denigrate the real thing, or the memories of it past, by giving credence to losers who wear the name or get branded with it incorrectly...
Federal prosecutor--not very high up and in a county. Like an assistant or something.
He was nothing. And it didn't last long.
There are Lakota Dog Soldiers but they are not all really Lakota.
According to reports in Indian media, Ward Churchill is surrounded by AIM security. By his own account, he was at Pine Ridge as a member of their security. I think this is the organization that is called the Dog Soldiers.
You don't cite any sources for your contention that there are no Lakota Dog Soldiers. I think you alleged you phoned some annonymous people who told you there were no Lakota Dog Soldiers. Annonymous posters and annonymous people on the phone means nothing. This is like claiming you are Mr X and killed the FBI guys. It isn't evidence at all.
I think there is such an organization because of court testimony by an identified woman with close ties to AIM and a prominent Indian writer. These people are on the record in court testimony and in signed articles:
The Lakota Dog Soldiers are mentioned and in a way that seems to be authentic. The killer of Anna Mae, Arlo Looking Cloud, may have been a dog soldier:
"Looking Cloud recieving, and having the gun would be consistent with Lakota traditional ethics dealing with Dog Soldier protocal. Graham was not a Lakota, and a woman would not generally have been assigned the responsibility of dealing with Lakota Dog Soldier business on Lakota land, therefore, it is more likely that Looking Cloud originally did have or recieved the gun."
http://www.jfamr.org/trialtime.html
I can't say how accurate this chronology is, but it does mention the Dog Soldiers and post it for that reason.
Here is another referrence to Dog Soldiers:
"DeMain has included more detailed versions of the alleged events, naming three individuals he believes were involved in Aquash's kidnapping. In DeMain's view the kidnappers (one of whom he claims was also the trigger man in the execution) were acting on orders from above. "These boys wanted to be dog soldiers," he says. "They wanted to be in the gang, they wanted to be important people. They were already doing security and toting around guns. So when someone in the movement ordered Anna Mae's pick-up, they went and did it."
http://www.citypages.com/databank/21/1002/article8432.asp?page=3
It shows a lack of real arguments on your part to criticize my views by saying that I am drunk or on drugs or crazy.
These are the tactics of the KGB.
The facts are that I am always sober, I never use drugs, and that I am an expert on propaganda and disinformation.
I do not wish to take sides on what is the "true" AIM and and what is not. I don't have a position on what dog soldiers are traditional and what dog soldiers are fakes. These are issues for people who are participants in that debate. I am not taking sides on that.
I am more interested in what the AIM affiliated with Ward Churchill and Lee Hill are up to. It is a matter of record that Lee Hill manipulated that murder investigation in order to create a conspiracy theory that a ring of powerful pedophiles was being protected by the FBI.
Lee Hill's actions remind me of how Churchill has characterized FBI actions at Pine Ridge as protecting alleged criminals:
"By March 1973, the Bureau appears to have assumed de facto control over the GOONs, [reservation police] providing them with weapons, ammunition, explosives, communications gear, field intelligence and what amounted to blanket immunity form prosecution so long as they hit the right targets. For the next three years the GOONs served as an anti-AIM death squad functioning under auspices of the FBI." http://www.noparolepeltier.com/churchill.html
My own personal view is that AIM was manipulated white radicals who advanced their own radical anti-FBI issues and did not really care about helping Indians.
It is pretty clear that Indian people are not keen to be associated with the views of Ward Churchill. I have posted a lot about that on this forum in threads on Churchill, if not on this thread.
I think that this "AIM" security Ward Churchill goes around with are probably these Dog Soldiers. Since people who consiedered themselves Dog Soldiers or Dog Soldier wannabees killed Anna Mae Aquash, I think Dog Soldiers are real and that they are dangerous, not a joke. I have also been told that these Dog Soldiers cause trouble on reservations. It is a sad thing if these people are Indians because they are only advancing an anti-FBI propaganda agenda and not promoting a better life for Indians.
You yourself admit that something calling itself Dog Soldiers exist--you just say that they are a joke and that they aren't a traditional expression of Lakota culture.
I am more worried about what these people may be doing to hurt people--Indians and others--than in polemics about whether they are traditional or not. I don't think they are a joke.
You might look at the trial transcript of the trial for Arlo Looking Cloud for Indian testimony on the Dog Soldiers.
Probably there is more there. The Denver Post covered this trial.
Or you could make a phone call to the two people I cited by name and see what they tell you about "AIM" Dog Soldiers.
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