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To: MHalblaub
Nice cites but the Bible is not a science book.

I am sorry you feel the way you do. The Bible has much to say about the reality in which we live, otherwise it could be relegated to a relativistic mythology as the secularists so strongly desire. the Bible specifically address who Created us, and the evidence throughout the pages of Scripture consistently point to it having occurred on a specific day in history. These truths close the door on the justification of many malicious behaviors men are capable of, and is that which our Republic is founded. "All men are created equal."

"If it works for you, great. Putting people in a wood chipper works for me, and you need to just pull back and let me be me. I like to call these experiments science, and your book says nothing about science, so again, back off." Paraphrase of Saddam Hussien.

I understand that you are not personally taking things to that extreme, however according to your logic, cloning, embryonic stem cell research and pre-birth body part farming are in the realm of science and outside the realm of Scripture. Trust me, the courts have used this legal secularist argument since Roe v. Wade, which would have the Founding Fathers turning in their graves. We already had one guy convince 30 million Germans that this was reality, lets not go there again.

Some of the pathways science is taking are fraught with evil intent. Reality must be derived from a Higher Source, otherwise it becomes to each man his own. Then we can wave goodbye to goodness and respect.

133 posted on 02/14/2005 12:01:32 PM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv
You can't be Amish because you are using a computer.

The Bible has much to say about the reality in which we live, otherwise...

The Bible really tells us much about our live and moral values but not much specific about nature e.g. why the sky is blue and how your computer works. Your computer is outside the realm of Scripture.

I understand that you are not personally taking things to that extreme, however according to your logic, cloning, embryonic stem cell research and pre-birth body part farming are in the realm of science and outside the realm of Scripture.

Cloning is very useful and makes a great effort for a fast development of new powerful plants. Cloning of animals as an attempt to understand what is going is in my opinion not to condemn. For humans I can see no need at all. Just do it because we can is not a reason.
Embryonic stem cell research is a dead end row and has a very slippery moral background. But not for stem cell research alone.
I must confess I have never heard about "pre-birth body part farming" before.

Some of the pathways science is taking are fraught with evil intent.

American and others scientists were developing the bomb in America while some others did it in Germany. Where is the evil intent? Not science is the evil it is the society which use the science. Therefore we need a moral background in science and not a condemnation of science in common.
134 posted on 02/14/2005 12:55:09 PM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: bondserv
"All men are created equal."

Is this cite from the Bible?
If not how can you derive it from the bible?
Last question for today:
For what died Jesus?
145 posted on 02/15/2005 4:56:42 AM PST by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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