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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; Amerigomag
At the San Diego Tribune website there is a link to listen to Arnold's comments today. He keeps says there has been a 1600% increase in contributions in the last 5 years, implying it has to do with increased benefits. What a bunch of cr@p! This is false advertising at its finest!

Mercury News

There is much reason to question turning to 401(k) plans, including the possibility that the transition costs will eat up any savings. One alleged justification, the rise in state pension costs from $160 million in 2000 to $2.6 billion today, is simply deceptive. In 2000, an anomaly, a booming stock market nearly eliminated the need for the state to contribute to the fund. Pension costs are not doubling annually.
San Francisco Chronicle
-- Current shortfalls in some municipal pension funds are not because of bloated benefits. Rather, they are the result of the precipitous drop in the stock market in 2000-2001 that affected even giant pension-fund managers such as CalPERS. Yet the governor and his friends now want to shift all the stock- market risk from fund managers to employees.

-- Defined-contribution plans are not cheaper to administer. According to CalPERS, it costs 18 cents per $100 invested to administer a defined-benefit plan. At the same time, it can cost up to $1.35 per $100 -- or nearly eight times as much -- to administer a 401(k)-type plan.

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Indeed, a report two weeks ago by Milliman Consultants and Actuaries found that Los Angeles County would pay nearly $1.3 billion more to administer the Schwarzenegger/Richman pension plan between 2007 and 2017 than it would pay for the current plan. And the Schwarzenegger/Richman plan would not result in a net savings until at least 2024.


12 posted on 02/10/2005 4:36:45 PM PST by calcowgirl
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Wow, I really want a ride on that boat.. Win money in the market, great! Lose money in the market, wonderful, since the California taxpayers will still pick up the tab.

When did public service become a career? Teachers, police, firemen - fine. Nothing for desk workers, only for field personnel. The rest can go get real jobs and we can fill the voids with those who don't mind working to help their fellow citizens instead of watching the calendar for retirement.
16 posted on 02/10/2005 4:46:32 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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