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The true nature of Islam
GOPUSA.com ^ | 02-10-2005 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 02/10/2005 12:41:21 PM PST by QGJinn

A few weeks ago I received an e-mail message from a man who called himself "Tim." He explained that this was not his real name. "Tim" was using this name so that he could remain anonymous. He needs to stay in the realm of the unknown. Tim is a marked man because he has done the unthinkable--the unforgivable. Tim has left Islam and in doing so, he has become a "kaafir"--an infidel--and an apostate. The Quran says: "Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never be forgiven by Allah."

According to the laws of Islam if a Muslim dares leave the faith, he becomes the worst of the worst, an infidel, and a traitor. These poor souls might be killed if discovered and so, they often must move to faraway cities, change their names and pray that they never run into anyone who knew them in their previous life. Allah has stated in the Quran that, "Whoever changes his religion [leaves Islam], execute him." Being forbidden to leave Islam is one of Islam's dirty little secrets...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; terrism
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I have read many things regarding Islam, but this article is the icing on the cake! The signs are all around us, America needs to wake the world up to what is going on around them and stop this plague, if it's not too late already. I'm not a hate-monger or a racist, but the world needs to recognize pure evil for what it is.
1 posted on 02/10/2005 12:41:22 PM PST by QGJinn
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To: QGJinn

"Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe and disbelieve again will never...."


make up their minds?


2 posted on 02/10/2005 12:43:17 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: QGJinn

Hmmm, Scientologislam?

Al Queda seems suspiciously like ol' R. Hubbard's "Sea Org"...


3 posted on 02/10/2005 12:46:25 PM PST by wvobiwan (Touchdown! Suckers walk...)
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To: QGJinn; 7.62 x 51mm
according to Amazon

people who buy into Islam also buy ocean front property in Arizona, and $10 Brand New Rolex's on the streets of NYC
::mostly liberals ::

4 posted on 02/10/2005 12:49:42 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: QGJinn

I was just reading the New Testament, and I just couldn't find any equivalent passages in my religion. Jesus' preachings and Paul's letters don't say anything about killing unbelievers. But the left says I am an intolerant person for being Christian?

There is one other big difference between the Bible and the Quran: Jesus says "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's." There is no equivalent passage in the Quran. Islam does not recognize secular authority.

Theocracies never work; they work far less well in a modern era when trying to apply maxims relevant only to 7th century goat herders.


5 posted on 02/10/2005 12:57:39 PM PST by henkster ("No more fun of any kind!" Dean Vernon Wormer)
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To: QGJinn

Sounds like the MAFIA.


6 posted on 02/10/2005 1:00:18 PM PST by granite (WHY ARE WE IN IRAQ?)
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To: QGJinn
"You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?

That job would not indicate the use of bullets, but 2400 high yield nuclear warheads could finish off all 6 billion of us...we have that many in our Ohio class boomers. I suggest these loonies reconfigure their plans for the 21st century...
7 posted on 02/10/2005 1:07:54 PM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: granite

The MAFIA are far more rational and peaceful than radical Islam. The Mafia wants to co-exist and not kill themselves. Radical Islam is the most irrational, suicidal, maniacal and fanatical thought process out there and it is nearly impossible for people to get out of its stranglehold. Muslims have never integrated into any society that they live in and their allegiance is only to Islam, never to the nation they live in. Most Americans cannot understand how deranged these people are continue to believe the politically correct thought that only a few of them are a threat to us and the religion is inherently peaceful. The religion is not inherently peaceful and for thousdands of years they have murdered people across the globe to expand their death cult. I sometimes wonder, what will it take for the sheeple in the USA to wake up and realize the true nature of this enemy.


8 posted on 02/10/2005 1:12:48 PM PST by Maneesh
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To: Edgerunner
It wouldn't take thousands of nuclear warheads to shut them down. Just 2 and a conventional Tomahawk. Mecca. Medina. The Dome of the Rock.
9 posted on 02/10/2005 1:25:10 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: QGJinn
There are peaceful and moderate Muslims. There is substantial evidence that the Quran is a collection of earlier oral sayings and it wouldn't be difficult for a Muslim reformist to practice a version of Islam that is moderate, even if the Quran, itself, contains some nasty passages. But what I understand is that many of the more violent and hostile traditions don't come for the Quran, itself, but the commentaries on Muhammed's life and the Quran. Sharia and such.
10 posted on 02/10/2005 1:28:20 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: QGJinn

I will say it one more time for the slow learners out there (liberal Democrats and Euro-trash). A fundamentalist Muslim believes his God demands that he must either kill or convert the Infidel, and he is actively striving to obey his God. A moderate Muslim believes his God demands that he must either kill or convert the Infidel, and he has not yet had either the means or opportunity to obey his God.


11 posted on 02/10/2005 1:28:21 PM PST by DJ Taylor
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To: sure_fine
people who buy into Islam also buy ocean front property in Arizona, and $10 Brand New Rolex's on the streets of NYC

Oh s**t.

12 posted on 02/10/2005 1:29:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: Maneesh

There are the Muslims who really buy into all the kill-the-infidel BS, and then there are the MINO's. A colleague spent his younger years growing up in Tehran before the revolution. His uncle sent him to a religious school in order to look good in the community, but warned my colleague not to believe the stuff they preached in school. While Islam is dangerous, not all Muslims are.


13 posted on 02/10/2005 1:36:52 PM PST by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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To: Fudd

A classic example of why most Americans believe in the politically correct fallacy that most Muslims are moderate.

Youo are basing your statememt on a sample size of 1 and anecdotal evidence. Study the history of Muslim societies and what happens to nations where Muslims immigrate in large numbers. 95% of the Muslims in the USA have no allegiance to the USA, only to Islam. I know you don't want to believe that because Americans believe that most people are good but that is the truth. Even moderate Muslims passively support the cause and never integrate with anyone else. I know hundreds and unless they are infidels to their own religion they never adopt the ways of the nation they live in. The indoctrination at every Muslim is scary and all of their rituals and religious practices breed fanatiscism right in your neighborhood, you are just oblivious to it for now.


14 posted on 02/10/2005 1:44:55 PM PST by Maneesh
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To: QGJinn
"You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?"

Hmm. Let me check the ammo locker...

Nope, not yet. Better crank up the Dillon tonight.

15 posted on 02/10/2005 1:46:00 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: granite
Sounds like the MAFIA.

And as with the mob, RICO is the way to go after this problem we now have in the US.

16 posted on 02/10/2005 1:47:41 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Question_Assumptions
Dr. Bernard Lewis said it best. (paraphrasing) To understand Islam and the Arab, don't read the Koran,..read Arab history.
17 posted on 02/10/2005 2:01:04 PM PST by womcg (was in the hospital longer than Kerry was in-country)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

(You beat me)
Darn,..I've only got 3/4 billon of LR primers on hand!


18 posted on 02/10/2005 2:06:11 PM PST by womcg (was in the hospital longer than Kerry was in-country)
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To: womcg
Dr. Bernard Lewis said it best. (paraphrasing) To understand Islam and the Arab, don't read the Koran,..read Arab history.

One could make the same claim about Christianity and Europe, depending on where you want to stop in history. Europe didn't exactly spring straight from the Roman Empire to the Enlightenment when Constantine converted to Christianity and it was Western European Crusaders rather than Muslims that sacked Constantinope during the Crusades. The question is not whether those who profess Islam have done awful things in the past but whether awful things are an inherent part of Islam such that moderation and peace are incompatable with the religion.

19 posted on 02/10/2005 3:13:31 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: granite

The only purpose Islam has is to conquer the world.It is Nazism in a headscarf.The people who have actually studied Islam and continue to call it the religion of peace are either lying or ignorant of the danger it represents.The one thing that binds the liberals with the Islamic fanatics is the hate they feel towards America.


20 posted on 02/10/2005 3:24:21 PM PST by rdcorso (When Will The UN Admit It Is Being Run By A Stupid Bastard ???????????)
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