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To: Killing Time
" . . . are not the United States of America still the rightful property of the British Crown?"

While I would have supported the Loyalist cause (as all good New Jerseyans did, including our governor William Franklin), the Treaty of Paris did legally grant independence to the colonies. It's ironic, but accurate, to claim that the legitimacy of the United States was guaranteed by the King of England.

If there is any usurping that was done, it was in the triumph of Lincoln's central government over the Confederates States. Thereafter, the federal government has been like a black hole, absorbing our rights one after another.

115 posted on 02/10/2005 11:21:31 AM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen

Welcome! Now this is funny

democracy, egalitarianism, vulgarity (although the last three are inseparable from each other),

I like the about page.


116 posted on 02/10/2005 11:33:09 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen

That is certainly correct in my case. I would have been glad to be a Tory in 1776, but I'm from Texas and so that little dust up had nothing to do with us. However, modern U.S. rule over Texas can certainly be considered illegal since the Republic of Texas joined the Union by treaty, authorized by a popular vote, and some years later also voted to leave the U.S. and join the Confederacy. Although no invasion of Texas ever succeeded (damn right!) after the war the state was occupied and re-joined the Union by force, not by law or democratic vote. In fact, even this reveals the hypocrisy of the federal government as the whole basis of Lincoln's war had been that the states had no right to secede (their stars weren't removed from the flag) and yet they were still forced to crawl on their bellies to be re-admitted to a Union they were never supposed to have left......yeah, THAT makes sense.

As for the American Revolution, what seems to me to be the silliest thing is the villification of King George III. In my opinion, not only was he not a tyrant, he was the best of all the Hannoverian monarchs, the rest of whom included some real bums. Compared to his father or his son G-3 was an absolute saint.


121 posted on 02/10/2005 5:29:43 PM PST by Guelph4ever (“Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et tibi dabo claves regni coelorum”)
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