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Police seize more than 40,000 guns(AU)
http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/ ^ | 10feb05

Posted on 02/09/2005 9:10:56 PM PST by teldon30

MORE than 40,000 weapons were seized in major crackdowns across New South Wales last year, the state's police commissioner Ken Moroney said today.

Mr Moroney said NSW Police carried out a major audit and compliance check of all firearms in the state last year. The audit, combined with the NSW Government's gun buyback, had seized 43,000 weapons, most of which were firearms, he said.

In total, 185,000 licensed firearm holders were identified, holding about 600,000 registered firearms between them.

As part of the blitz, thousands of weapons were destroyed because police were not satisfied the firearms were being kept securely, or that "possession of that firearm was necessarily further warranted".

"Some 43,000 weapons were seized and subsequently destroyed by NSW Police during (20)03-04," Mr Moroney said.

A number of private security firms had closed following a police audit of the industry, he said.

"We're working with the security industry of course in terms of the ballistic testing of all firearms in possession of the security industry itself."

"We've sought to apply a strong audit and compliance regime with the industry itself.

"As a consequence of that a number of private security firms have had to close down.

"We're not satisfied with the level of security that they've been taking."

The security industry had strongly supported the police actions, Mr Moroney said.

Detective Superintendent John Kerlatec said six guns had been stolen from security guards this year, compared with about 10 last year and more than 60 in 2003.


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1 posted on 02/09/2005 9:10:56 PM PST by teldon30
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To: teldon30

very .......


2 posted on 02/09/2005 9:13:03 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: teldon30

Let's see...firearms being confiscated from registered owners by the police. Yeah, any state disarming its citizens must really believe in freedom.


3 posted on 02/09/2005 9:22:26 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: teldon30
"Registration does not lead to confiscation" the liberal brownshirts always say.

wanna bet?

4 posted on 02/09/2005 9:26:58 PM PST by GeronL (--- Loading, Loading...)
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To: teldon30
Did it in Australia

Canadians can't have guns

How long?

5 posted on 02/09/2005 9:28:44 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: GeronL
"Registration does not lead to confiscation"

That's how Hitler did it.

Step 1. All must register

Step 2 Collection

Step 3 Attack

6 posted on 02/09/2005 9:31:21 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: GeronL
"Registration does not lead to confiscation" the liberal brownshirts always say.

wanna bet?

Confiscation is the only reason for registration.

7 posted on 02/09/2005 9:31:50 PM PST by RJL
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To: teldon30

Australia is cracking down hard on those who bothered to legally register their guns. Those are the ones who care about the law.

Keeping those people unarmed, helps to reduce the risk that criminals face when they rob, murder, rape the unarmed sheep populace. The government's first duty is to criminals.


8 posted on 02/09/2005 9:34:14 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: teldon30

What's wrong down there? They are with us on so many things. And now this crap? What's going on? I know they enacted some dumb anti-gun laws a while back and I don't understand that either.
I'm no expert on Australian matters, but did some crappy feel-gooders take over? Help me understand.


9 posted on 02/09/2005 9:35:54 PM PST by Octar
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To: Octar

I'm hoping some of our resident Aussies will come and shed some light on this post.


10 posted on 02/09/2005 9:37:29 PM PST by teldon30
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To: teldon30

Agreed. How horrifying for them. They will have no way to defend themselves any longer.


11 posted on 02/09/2005 9:56:08 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: teldon30
...weapons were destroyed because police were not satisfied...that "possession of that firearm was necessarily further warranted".

"Necessarily" is an interesting weasel word, think of it as unquestionably. In other words, this is better than a Catch 22; and, possession of the firearm was likely not warranted.

Hillary Rodham is taking notes, folks. Don't let that American flag lapel pin fool you

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12 posted on 02/09/2005 9:58:21 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

truth bump


13 posted on 02/09/2005 10:00:08 PM PST by teldon30
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To: DakotaGator

England and Australia - whose governments can not or will not control criminals and will not allow the citizens to protect themselves. What kind of looking-glass mentatlity is that? Is it any wonder that crime has increased at a frightening rate in both countries while the citizens are helpless victims?


14 posted on 02/09/2005 10:10:37 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: teldon30

Doesn't everyone feel safe now?


15 posted on 02/09/2005 10:21:22 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12208981%255E1702,00.html


16 posted on 02/09/2005 10:54:21 PM PST by teldon30
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To: Octar
"Help me understand"

Gladly. All you need to do is consider the fact that those law-abiding Australians who had 40,000 properly registered guns confiscated from them are no less confused, shocked and angry than you are, and there's your answer. They aren't being governed, they're being ruled over. The same thing is happening in 'democracies' all over the world, including our own.

In every day life you meet a fair amount of people who like to control others and force their will on them, we all know them. These are the type of people who generally drift toward political office or other positions of power, like 'law enforcement'. How many politicians today, or police, judges, lawyers and others in positions of authority actually give a rats tail about the Constitution and the general concept of citizen's rights it embodies?

It seems to me that the Western world is drifting towards authoritarian rule of one sort or another, and it's probably a result of people not being able to discipline or control themselves. In formerly Christian nations where people feared the wrath of God, He is no longer worshipped. In fact God is barely recognized anymore, let alone being viewed as the absolute, final Authority. With this gross loss of Divinely ordained morals and values it's only natural that nations get trapped in their own vice and crime, and then find themselves in need of tyrants who are willing to force law and order on them, no matter how corrupt and unfair the means.

17 posted on 02/09/2005 10:59:54 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Octar

OK, it's pretty simple.

Gun laws are under the control of the states - that is, state governments decide what laws apply in their state.

While Australia has a conservative (Liberal/National coalition) government federally, every single state currently has a socialist (Labor) government.

This can lead to considerable schizophrenia in Australian laws and practices.

Swinging voters - the roughly 15% whose changing vote - determines governments tend to vote different federally than they do at a state level. Different issues dominate - federally people are concerned about the economy and security. At state level they are concerned about health and education.

It's not at all uncommon for there to be a different make up in the state governments than is seen federally.

Now, the Federal Government did promote gun law 'reforms' in the late 1990s (just after the Coalition was elected) and this did have a minor negative effect on how easy it is to own firearms - but it was still the states that passed the laws, not the Federal government.

Constitutionally this is not a Federal issue.

NSW has a long standing socialist government and the laws and practices in this article are completely a state government creation.

The good news is that it's likely the state governments are going to shift to the right in their next elections. The bad news is gun laws are a very minor political issue in Australia. Few people care that much.


18 posted on 02/09/2005 11:54:16 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for your insight!!! It is appreciated.


19 posted on 02/09/2005 11:57:50 PM PST by teldon30
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To: DakotaGator
Let's see...firearms being confiscated from registered owners by the police.

This is exactly why I am leery of getting a concealed carry license.

20 posted on 02/10/2005 12:19:47 AM PST by fella
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