Posted on 02/09/2005 5:28:52 AM PST by GaryL
Its Hillary's primary to lose. I sincerely mean that. She will bring alot of star power and the GOP is going to have to counter with some star power of their own. (Can you imagine the fawning press over Hillary? If you thought it was bas the last election...) The only three right now are Condi, McCain, and Rudy. For many conservatives, a choice like Rudy will be hard. While they like the guy, he just is too liberal on social issues. McCain actually has a decent conservative history, but Condi we are unsure of because she was never in a position where here personal views were vetted.
As for me, all I need to do is look at the picture of armed troopers pointing a gun at Elian Gonzalez and the fisherman and delivering him back into the arms of the murderer/dictator Castro - and I know I will vote Republican almost no matter what.
Hillary, on the bright side, will bring in tons campaign cash for the GOP.
i'd vote 4 condi.
W could name his successor, imho, and it would carry one hell of a lot of weight.
Let's see.....
Pro-choice...no elected office experience...no legislative experience...a globalist at heart...and now has Dick Morris' approval.
Yeah...let's crown her the GOP nominee for 2008.
Pushing Bush's agenda to the world does not consititute presidential material. And if Hillary is the opponent she is not going to win NYC, Detroit or LA, contrary to the smoke being blown here.
Let her be the best SoS she can and when W's term is up she can go back into the private sector and talk about her reluctant pro-choice position or how the US should work to be part of a larger global community.
I agree. She's the right person for the job for oh so many reasons... but she's not the right candidate for the job at this time.
Perhaps after serving a term (or HOPEFULLY two) as VP. At that point who in the media could argue that she was any less qualified for the job of President than, oh, say Al Gore or John Kerry. While they both had legislative experience (doing WHAT exactly, who knows) neither would represent the depth of foreign policy, domestic policy and executive experience that Condi would have by that point.
That coupled with the likelihood that a few more deep south NASCAR Republicans would be able to handle the idea of a black female President after eight years of Condi as VP point to 2012/2016 as a more likely target. Unfortunate, but true.
My vote and my volunteer time are hers anytime she steps up for it. However, I believe that the question is moot...I think she'd honestly rather have Paul Tagliabue's job.
Another plus for me is the absolute devastation that would be inflicted upon the Democratic party if the first *black* *female* president came from the GOP.
They would literally eat themselves alive.
Bones
All that said, I ask you – who in their right mind would ever let Bill Clinton near the White House again in any capacity? Not clear thinking Americans red or blue!
condi for president...
"That coupled with the likelihood that a few more deep south NASCAR Republicans would be able to handle the idea of a black female President after eight years of Condi as VP point to 2012/2016 as a more likely target. Unfortunate, but true."
It's a valid point, but I think you underestimate them a little. I think a whole lot of them would go for Condi right from the jump. That means '08.
If given the choice between her and HILLARY? I'm sure they'll come out and support the party, even if they are a bit uncomfortable. (which I really dont think they'll be)
We have to think of this situation like it is. It wont be a run of the mill campaign, it's very likely that we may be running against Hillary in 2008. This will create very special circumstances, and I personally think Dr. Rice is the answer to that. The reason I think that is because she could neutralize key advantages that Hillary would have and has huge advantages of her own.
Bones
God Bless Condi for Shining Bright where
Hillary Rodham chooses to slither in the dark.
No wonder Hillary fainted....
"And going down in history as the vice-president forced from office so someone else can run for president.
You seem incapable of seeing such an action by the VP as being anything other than "forced". Perhaps your personal experience in enjoying the "emotional benefits" of altering one's life for the greater good of others limits your ability to conceptualize to only those things that are purely logical (Perhaps, Non-Sequitur, you are really "Mr. Spock" of the Starship Enterprise?) My original post did not use that term and if he felt "forced" he shouldn't do it.
Despite all of the fascination with her possiblities as a candidate, the truth is she has NEVER run for an elective office. She is not, and never has been, and apparantly has never aspired to be a political animal. She is a policy wonk. That is it.
I am not saying she is not electable, or I would not vote for her, what I am saying is that there is nothing about her that indicates that she is inclined in that direction.
So please, for the love of all that is good and holy, please stop this incessant fantasizing. It doesn't do anyone any good.
Condi is not going to run in '08! Get over it!
"which indicates he(Morris) is just making it up as he goes along"...just how is this any different from Dan Rather or Peter Jennings or the CNN crew?
Who are you quoting? I didn't say that. Are you agreeing with my point or something else?
Hill's grinding more than her teeth!
"Who else could we run against The Mad Shrill?"
How about a real conservative? Why are our only options RINOs?
I thought we already had drafted her.
I will be interested in how she answers pro-life questions (which I'm sure will be addressed to her if she even looks like she's thinking of running).
I've been convinced that some of the people who say they wouldn't seek to overturn Roe might mean that they would rather see some other solution than a SC or other judicial resolution to abortion on demand. I can hope, anyway.
How much public experience did GWB have before he ran for Texas governor? None! But he still won.
Condi would get the black vote, the women's vote and the Republican's vote (most of them anyway). How could she lose?
Thanks for that link. I hadn't read those words in connection with Secretary Rice. Perhaps she's had a change of heart in the last 4 or 5 years. Or could in the next 3.
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