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To: ancient_geezer
"John Linder offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright, and provide a IRS free replacement in the form of a retail sales tax"

I agree, the IRS must be dismantled. But I don't think that a retail sales tax is a good idea. I think a flat income tax would be better.

30 posted on 02/08/2005 8:49:51 PM PST by blueberry12
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To: blueberry12

I agree, the IRS must be dismantled

Isn't going to happen under a flat income tax. The IRS will still be required to audit & assure that everyone is reporting the proper income on which to pay tax. That does not go away under the Flat Tax. It isn't the size of the final report my friend, its what you have to do to prove to government the numbers on it are correct that keeps the IRS in business.

I think a flat income tax would be better.

The current system started out as a flat tax, didn't last one session of Congress before they started taking on rates and started to dink with esoteric exclusions and deductions.

The flat tax still must define what is taxable income as opposed to legitimate costs of business and return of capital that is where the complexity lay and the IRS becomes the ogre. The number of rates has 1 page against the 60K pages of complexity that the income tax system has become.

I suggest you read the following review of the Flat Tax before deciding that it will accomplish much other than keep Congress and Guchi Gulch in business for decades to come.

Flat Tax as Seen by a Tax Preparer
by Vern Hoven

The flat tax does replaces only the income tax, it does little to address business taxation in terms of where the real complexities lay, and does nothing at all as regards replacing SS/Medicare taxes on wages.

The NRST replaces the whole ball of wax, and truly removes the need for a federal IRS.

Fundamentally the issue is one of freedom and liberty, not on the rate of tax, as all taxes ultimately bear on the individual through lower wages, lower return on investment, high prices or combinations of all three.

The key is assuring that the entire electorate perceives the price of excess government and thus is encouraged to control the size and scope of government instead of pushing for more as the hide the pea games that are done with federal taxes under the income tax schemes.

31 posted on 02/08/2005 9:59:36 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: blueberry12

"I agree, the IRS must be dismantled. But I don't think that a retail sales tax is a good idea. I think a flat income tax would be better."

Your statement is contradictory. You can't dismantle the IRS and convert to a flat INCOME tax.


34 posted on 02/09/2005 3:51:28 AM PST by phil_will1
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To: blueberry12

How will the IRS change at all if we have a "flat income tax"?


37 posted on 02/09/2005 6:14:31 AM PST by Principled
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To: blueberry12
I think a flat income tax would be better.

That way the government can continue to snoop on your finacial activities and steal your money at the point of a gun. Keep that boot on the necks of those unwashed masses. That's a real good idea. </sarcasm>

39 posted on 02/09/2005 6:50:29 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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