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1 posted on 02/08/2005 11:21:52 AM PST by NorCoGOP
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"My uncle ran the Pensacola Marine Base and flew both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford. He also served in Vietnam, and in Beirut he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages. My grandfather served in World War II in Pearl Harbor at the time of the horrific bombings there. I also have a very good friend who is currently serving in Iraq."

This is the equivalent of... "some of my best friends are Black" right before the offensive comment comes from their lips.
My ONLY friends are Marines... OOH-RAH!! Gen Mattis!!


41 posted on 02/08/2005 12:13:02 PM PST by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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By the way the word Marine when describing a U.S. Marine... is always, Capitalized.


46 posted on 02/08/2005 12:15:47 PM PST by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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...he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages.

read: 'he tried to fly a helicopter and tried to free the Iranian hostages'...

47 posted on 02/08/2005 12:15:58 PM PST by martin gibson
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Note, this civilian's credentials are "he has relatives that were in the military."

Plus he has taken the quote out of context.

What a putz


55 posted on 02/08/2005 12:28:19 PM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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Mattis is not a hero, but a terrorist and an inhumane piece of human debris.

Why do liberals always end up with name calling when trying to formulate an argument? Are they all just suffering from extended adolescence or something? I really don't understand. I don't always see this when arguing with conservatives, but it invariably occurs when lefties attempt to put forth their side. What's up with that?

58 posted on 02/08/2005 12:41:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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You now understand that one of our U.S. Marines made a comment so outrageous that he is now on par with the worst of the terrorists.

I assume that most readers of this site are aware enough and have a sense od proportion and common sense to see clearly that this is Casey Hoff's opinion, for whatever it's worth.

In my case it's worth zero or less, since it was gratuitously worded to serve his own purposes.

Taking any known terrorist at random, defined by what they do, not by what they say, and the whole cheap posturing disintegrates before our eyes.

61 posted on 02/08/2005 1:10:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: NorCoGOP; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Constitution Day; All
Mattis is not a hero, but a terrorist and an inhumane piece of human debris. He is a Benedict Arnold in our effort to fight terrorism and is a disgrace to this country.

Can't find words suitable for this punk.

65 posted on 02/08/2005 1:25:16 PM PST by dighton
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Poor casey. No one loves him. He has to fall in with the losers/America haters to have someone to talk to. It must be a lonely life.


69 posted on 02/08/2005 1:42:17 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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Stuffy, stilted, arrogant, self-righteous and puerile blatherings of those who take upon themselves the mantle of moral and intellectual superiority... gimmeabreak!

Go, General! Salute from the sidelines.


72 posted on 02/08/2005 1:49:23 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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My uncle ran the Pensacola Marine Base and flew both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford. He also served in Vietnam, and in Beirut he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages. My grandfather served in World War II in Pearl Harbor at the time of the horrific bombings there. I also have a very good friend who is currently serving in Iraq.

I AM CALLING YOU A LIAR. CARE TO RESPOND?

77 posted on 02/08/2005 2:02:40 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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Personally, I don't want a military that doesn't enjoy doing their job and doing it well. Killing isn't something to be relished, unless it's killing the bad guys who behead, blow up innocent people and threatening my country. I don't want our troops to come home feeling guilty for doing their job.


78 posted on 02/08/2005 2:03:12 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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What is a crypto-fascist?


79 posted on 02/08/2005 2:04:35 PM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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I know many soldiers who would "love" to shoot someone like OBL.

Some, and I don't agree with this, even pray for war. There are those who join the military to play the game.

War is about killing and destroying. You can package it how you want, but it’s about making other people dead and making things broke (That’s the end state). Now you can be precise in targeting, selection of weapon matched against target, doctrine……to minimize collateral damage but the result is that the military goes somewhere because we plan on making people dead.

People who complain about his speech fall into one simple category. Pacifists. Even if they don’t admit this to themselves, they are fundamentally opposed to killing because that’s what the whole ruckus is about. He didn’t say anything that is a war crime, or even morally objectionable. The “pacifist” sees this differently though. He locks on these words like a heat seeker. Ultimately the General spoke in plain words and stated the obvious. But it’s the reality of war which the pacifist opposes.

The General did what is expected of a Marine; he wasn’t PC. But someone who thinks like him has is heart and priorities in the right place to lead men in battle.

Red6


84 posted on 02/08/2005 2:16:08 PM PST by Red6
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You now understand that one of our U.S. Marines made a comment so outrageous that he is now on par with the worst of the terrorists.

No, Casey, you dumbass. He's NOT on par with the worst of the terrorists. He's KILLING people who would MURDER innocents. He enjoys his job. I don't see a problem.

Gah! Leftists piss me off.

88 posted on 02/08/2005 2:22:02 PM PST by Terabitten (A quick reminder to the liberals. The election in Iraq was done NOT IN YOUR NAME.)
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I have a long history of military service in my family, as do millions of other Americans. My uncle ran the Pensacola Marine Base and flew both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford. He also served in Vietnam, and in Beirut he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages. My grandfather served in World War II in Pearl Harbor at the time of the horrific bombings there. I also have a very good friend who is currently serving in Iraq.

What about you, Casey? No mention of your "service". Also, I find your family history in the military highly suspect since you name Pensacola as a Marine installation and no helicopters were flown out of Beirut for Operation Eagle Claw. Those were Marine MH53s flown from the decks of the USS Nimitz steaming in the Arabian Sea, far away from Beirut. Seems to me you're embellishing at best or outright lying to lend legitimacy to your ignorant rant against a man who knows of what he speaks.

92 posted on 02/08/2005 4:20:19 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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My uncle ran the Pensacola Marine Base

Pensacola is a Navy base

and flew both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford. He also served in Vietnam, and in Beirut he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages.

Operation Eagle Claw, the ill-fated Desert One mission, had nothing to do with Beirut. Snot-nosed Casey Hoff is most likely a liar.

102 posted on 02/08/2005 8:23:27 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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This guy should strap on an M-4 and show us how its done. Until then, maybe he should STFU.


104 posted on 02/08/2005 10:22:07 PM PST by azsportsterman
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