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U.S. soldiers do not enjoy killing (From the College Front)(Barf Alert)
Badger Herald (U. Wisconsin) ^ | 2/7/05 | Casey Hoff

Posted on 02/08/2005 11:21:51 AM PST by NorCoGOP

MADISON, Wis. -- Pop quiz, hotshot: Who made the following statement last week? "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight, you know? It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you. I like brawling."

A. Abu Musab al-Zarkowi

B. Osama Bin Laden

C. Saddam Hussein

D. U.S. Lieutenant General James Mattis

If you guessed D, congratulations. You now understand that one of our U.S. Marines made a comment so outrageous that he is now on par with the worst of the terrorists. General James Mattis said that, "it's fun to shoot some people" and "it's a hell of a hoot" while speaking to a group in San Diego about strategies for the war on terror. General Mattis has commanded troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, but he now has blood on his hands because by making that comment, he immediately put our U.S. troops in more danger. His service in the marines is no longer honorable.

I have a long history of military service in my family, as do millions of other Americans. My uncle ran the Pensacola Marine Base and flew both Presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford. He also served in Vietnam, and in Beirut he flew a helicopter to try and free the Iranian hostages. My grandfather served in World War II in Pearl Harbor at the time of the horrific bombings there. I also have a very good friend who is currently serving in Iraq.

Military service is a priceless asset to the United States of America as our last line of defense against those who want to kill us, and I cannot thank the U.S. military enough for putting their lives at risk in the most heroic of fashions so that we can continue to live peacefully in this wonderful country. But there is one virtue that 99 percent of the military holds dear to this day: They serve their country not because it's a "hoot" or a fun little game to kill people, but because in the absolute last lines of defense, they must kill to protect us. In other words, 99 percent of the military does not enjoy killing.

Lieutenant General James Mattis is not a hero; he is a terrorist. By making that statement, he instantly recruited more terrorists to murder our good men and women serving in Iraq. Like the Abu Ghraib torture situation and the Mi Lai massacre in Vietnam, General Mattis re-emphasized the negative stereotype of the U.S. Marines as "killing machines" and "evil, vindictive murderers." He should be dishonorably discharged from the military immediately.

However, thus far his superior officer General Mike Hagee is defending these indefensible, pseudo-treasonous comments by saying, "While I understand that some people may take issue with the comments made by him, I also know he intended to reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war." It is an unfortunate reality to have to kill while we are at war, but it is a complete lie and distortion to insinuate that the majority of our troops enjoy killing.

General Mattis' statements do two extremely dangerous things. No. 1, it will cause the death of more U.S. soldiers, as the Abu Ghraib incident did after it was exploited and played countless times on Al-Jazeera television. No. 2, it adds fuel to the fire for a small sector of the Sandonista-left in this country that see the United States military as an evil institution with evil people in it that love to kill. A caller on my radio show re-emphasized this ridiculous position on Friday, when he called the U.S. military a bunch of "killing machines" who enjoy murdering people. The other ridiculous sentiment comes from the crypto-fascist, Kool-Aid-drinking, Sean Hannity right, who believe that we can say and do whatever we want to others because we are the U.S.A., and we are a superpower.

The people with this opinion are also fools. If we claim to have the "moral high-ground" over the terrorists, then we have to act that way. We can't avoid the Geneva Conventions like these same people wanted to do with Abu Ghraib, and we can't have people in the military who say to the whole world that they get some sort of sick pleasure out of killing others.

What General James Mattis did when he said "It's fun to shoot some people" is beyond my comprehension. If you defend his statements, then you must realize you are spitting in the face of every single person in the United States military and every single veteran. Mattis is not a hero, but a terrorist and an inhumane piece of human debris. He is a Benedict Arnold in our effort to fight terrorism and is a disgrace to this country. We must do everything we can to keep the General James Mattises of this world out of the conceptual image of the U.S. military and this great country.


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To: NorCoGOP

Some people don't want to be on a team and play the game. Others want to just be on the team but don't want to get in the game because their scared. Then there are those who love being in the game because it thrills them and it is the "ultimit game". We fight until you kill me or I kill you. When it's over, you get an edrenilin rush that is unbelievable.
X Marine Viet Vet


21 posted on 02/08/2005 11:42:59 AM PST by Hold DiMayo
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To: ariamne
I think Gen. Patton would have busted a knuckle or two on this guys head and read him the riot act.


What is your name boy! Casey? Someone get this puke a rifle and show him where the from line is.
22 posted on 02/08/2005 11:43:29 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: NorCoGOP

And so the campaign against our troops begins..


23 posted on 02/08/2005 11:43:54 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Is it all surprising they troops come from the red states, vote Republican, and Democrats do whatever they can to thwart their voter ballots getting to them in time to be counted in elections?


24 posted on 02/08/2005 11:47:14 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: zarf
Kill em all.

..... let God sort 'em out!

25 posted on 02/08/2005 11:49:37 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: pissant

Another note to Casey. Put the uniform on yourself, get some real life experience or shut up.


26 posted on 02/08/2005 11:51:23 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: taxcontrol

Apparently, you think size does matter.


27 posted on 02/08/2005 11:53:19 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: NorCoGOP
No. 2, it adds fuel to the fire for a small sector of the Sandonista-left in this country that see the United States military as an evil institution with evil people in it that love to kill.

He says this as if he's not a part of that group.

28 posted on 02/08/2005 11:55:00 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: NorCoGOP
Pensacola is NOT a "Marine Base" asshole.

And "flying" (whatever you mean by that) Jimmy Carter (naive pacifist, America-LAST maggot, left-wing-dictator-loving piece-of-shit, and WORST-president-in-American-history) and Gerald Ford (has-been RINO pussy who never EARNED the presidency) is NOTHING to brag about.

"Kay-thee" (can't you just imagine the way this little left-wing tater-tot, Casey, TALKS?) just sit down now, and STFU.

Even though you and your ilk don't deserve it, better men (and women) will protect you.

29 posted on 02/08/2005 11:57:17 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: ariamne

My son is a combat infantryman- after hearing about this he wondered just what it is intellectuals think we train our military to do...

As an Army mom I've closely observed our response(s) to the Iraq war for two years now. When my son went to Iraq the country was in a Rah-rah-sis-boom-bah kind of mood...cheering for our soldiers etc. Barely two years later I listen to the same people repeating the crap they said during Vietnam.

As often happens- watching an ongoing event from afar gives a distorted view. Civilians like me will never understand what a soldier knows nor can we comprehend the love between them.

As long as the marines in his command know what he meant- I am in NO position to question him.


30 posted on 02/08/2005 12:00:01 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: DocH

Pensacola is NOT a "Marine Base" asshole.

Beat me to it. How credible can you be if you don't even really know where your Uncle served.


31 posted on 02/08/2005 12:00:38 PM PST by TN4Bush
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To: NorCoGOP

I just sent him/her a nice note, commenting on his/her editorial.


32 posted on 02/08/2005 12:02:01 PM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: TheForceOfOne
Is it all surprising they troops come from the red states,

Not true. But they DO come from the "Red" familes that live in the Blue areas of the country.
33 posted on 02/08/2005 12:02:43 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: NorCoGOP

Contact form :

http://www.badgerherald.com/contact/index.php?send=n


34 posted on 02/08/2005 12:03:23 PM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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Hey Casey,

Guess what soldiers who enjoy killing do when they come back to the states and read articles like yours?

Did you ever consider the repercussions of writing your article and pissing off a bunch of soldiers who shoot people on a daily basis?

Better make sure all your medical benefits are paid up to date.
35 posted on 02/08/2005 12:03:52 PM PST by texan75010 (You lost - MoveOn...to France, or Canada, or New Zealand, or Germany...take your pick.)
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To: MichiganCheese

She can't have him. I called him first.


36 posted on 02/08/2005 12:08:57 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: texan75010
Guess what soldiers who enjoy killing do when they come back to the states and read articles like yours?

Any soldier who enjoys killing needs some serious psychiatric help.

37 posted on 02/08/2005 12:09:04 PM PST by Kleon
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To: TheForceOfOne

Good point about the demoquats. But we had plenty of New York boys sign up after 9/11.


38 posted on 02/08/2005 12:10:38 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: DTogo
Count me into the "1%"

Me too. I'm not interested in "high moral ground I'm interested in dead terrorists that aren't going to butcher anymore innocent Americans.

39 posted on 02/08/2005 12:11:41 PM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: SE Mom

Bless you and your son, SE mom.


40 posted on 02/08/2005 12:11:46 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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