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To: Hildy


Million Dollar baby is about Euthanasia- BUt only if someone REALLY REALLY NEEDS IT

no one why it was hailed best movie of the year- if that's not agenda pushing I don't know what is!



7 posted on 02/07/2005 3:07:22 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( There's no Double Talk from Dubya!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

It's a story that has Euthanasia in it. My Gosh.


9 posted on 02/07/2005 3:09:01 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
You probably didn't like Bridges of Madison County either, I guess. That Meryl Streep is such a s!ut homewrecker and Clint Eastwood nothing but a guy looking to get laid. You know if they made a movie like that, they must believe it's OK. /sarcasm.
22 posted on 02/07/2005 3:19:03 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Million Dollar baby is about Euthanasia- BUt only if someone REALLY REALLY NEEDS IT

That's like saying "Lethal Weapon" was about shooting someone 10 times - but only if they REALLY REALLY NEEDS IT.

31 posted on 02/07/2005 3:26:18 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Million Dollar baby is about Euthanasia- BUt only if someone REALLY REALLY NEEDS IT

You're being ironic with that statement, right?

Just in case you're not, I want to make sure nobody thinks that quadraplegia is a condition that makes someone REALLY REALLY NEED euthanasia.

My neighbor two blocks down the street is quadraplegic. Just out of high school, he went to work as a housepainter. Then, you guessed it, he fell off a ladder and became completely paralyzed.

He worked hard in rehab and eventually got back enough use of his hands to be able to operate his own power wheelchair.

He married and had two beautiful children -- after being paralyzed.

He ran for election to the local school board, successfully, and has held that post for several years now. He also organizes sports events for handicapped children, and brings in celebrities for fundraising for charitable groups.

Today I see him all the time, tooling around the neighborhood in his power chair. He also drives his girls to school in a specially configured van.

All the quadraplegics I've ever met are happy to be alive.

142 posted on 02/08/2005 6:00:12 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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yeah it put me off they had to get a slam on the Catholic Church in there- oh, Clint's character goes to Mass EVERY DAY, but when he needs real counselling the priest has nothing but shibboleths and cliches to feed him and is no help at all so he throws all the teachings of a lifetime out the window and kills the girl. Number one, they had to make it horrific as possible so he seems justified, I mean it would have looked bad for her just to want to die because she couldn't fight any more when thousands have lived productive and relatively happy lives after being disabled, so they make her have bedsores (I doubt anyone properly cared for would get bed sores) her legs rot off (uh, why just her? I know of plenty of quads who don't lose their legs if properly cared for) then they make her try to commit suicide by biting her tongue off (yeah right) so by now it looks like St. Eastwood is doing a real service to mankind by killing this poor girl before all that's left is a paralysed head with no tongue (what could be worse? she goes blind too!!!)

Its a travesty and a smack in the face of every person who went to see Passion that it was not nominated for best picture, that Mel Gibson was not nominated for best director, and Jim Caviezel for giving a fantastic perfomance in, I'm sorry, the most demanding role in the history of movies. The woman who played Mary deserves a supporting nod as much as the worthless, brainless starlets they usually nominate.

The one argument I heard was it was too violent: oh yeah, too violent like say, last year's winner LOTR, with arrows stabbed into people's eyes, heads, arms and legs lopped off? Point blank arrows shot into people's bodies? Or how about American Beauty, another recent winner, with underage nudity (Thora Birch was 16 when she bared her breasts on that movie) pedophilia and finally a point-blank gunshot to the head? Or how about another recent winner, Gladiator. There was some violence in that I think, oh yeah, the protagonists wife and son were raped, CRUCIFIED and burned alive. Also decapitations, disembowelings, patricide, incest, killing for sport and other various and sundry atrocities.

The difference is the Passion is violence with a purpose and with meaning. Not for gratuitous tittlilation. Much like the violence in Schindler's List, which also had full frontal nudity. But it was valid because it had MEANING. And that won best pic and Speilburg won best director. Now it seems like there is some kind of double standard at work here. I have read that the Hollywood Jewish lobby are the ones who killed Passion's chances at any major award. They hate this movie. And why? Intolerance. Ignorance. The major heroes: Jesus, St. Peter, St. Mary, Veronica, ALL JEWS! So how is it bashing Jews? I am sickened by this reaction because I truly believe most Christians have no animosity toward Jews and their religion or traditions.

Besides the fact the academy cut off its nose to spite its face. The Oscars would have had their biggest audience EVER if the Passion had been nominated. People who have never seen the Oscars, don't care, or haven't watched in years would have tuned in. But the powers that be in Hollywood would rather ignore perhaps the greatest film in the history of filmmaking before they would honor a truly pious and worthy director like Gibson. Its disgusting and there should be a HUGE outcry over this. This should not be allowed to pass.

307 posted on 02/08/2005 8:14:53 PM PST by puppets
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Did you see it? DID YOU SEE THIS MOVIE? Because I just got back from the theater. It was a masterpiece. As far as an agenda? Give me a break. It's a story of two people and their choices. Pushing an agenda? BULL. BULL. And I don't understand why somebody does not have the right to die if they want to. I certainly would not want to live like the woman in this movie. If I ever found myself in this situation, I hope I have someone like the Eastwood character who respects me and loves me enough to do what I ask.


430 posted on 02/09/2005 3:30:12 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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