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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
The truth is that you can never know what someone in Maggie's state would be feeling unless it happens to you.

Y'know, I'm so sick of this moral relativistic crap that I swear to God I am going to keep on living no matter how f&*(ed up I am. I promise. Just to show up all the weak sisters and hedonists.

If I am ever injured, paralyzed or whatever, every breath I take with be a spit in the face of the sickos who would rather see me snuffed.

402 posted on 02/08/2005 10:35:31 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

There are just too many real-life examples of people who live in spite of the incredible blows that life deals them to take this movie as seriously as it wishes us to do.

In the film, there are two phrases that are said or shown, at least twice, that make you wonder just what they are supposed to mean givn the later developments:

One is: "Winners are simply willing to do what losers won't."

The other is: "Tough ain't enough."

Well, I would say that life's winners find a reason and will to live. I can't imagine that either thought that they were quitting as winners.

Maggie and Frankie had all the money they needed from the boxing commission. Frankie proved that he was willing to take care if Maggie. It's a shame that the script wouldn't let Maggie find a reason to live when others in life with similar life circumstances do.


407 posted on 02/08/2005 10:52:23 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

RE: "Y'know, I'm so sick of this moral relativistic crap that I swear to God I am going to keep on living no matter how f&*(ed up I am. I promise. Just to show up all the weak sisters and hedonists."


You don't really believe this insanity; you can't possibly be this cold, this detached from all possible human feeling or emotion. You can't possibly be this unredeemably EVIL. No, you're just trying to gourd me into anger and I won't allow it to work this time.

Counting my breaths now: 10...9..8...7...


409 posted on 02/08/2005 10:59:56 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Cogadh na Sith

You realize of course in the movie that it is Swank who wants to die and Eastwood recoils at the idea. He does not want her to die because she fills a need for him. So in the world of the movie Eastwood wouldn't be trying to kill you either. If anyone wanted to see you die I don't think it would be because you are paralyzed.

Again, not a euthanasia propaganda piece.


428 posted on 02/09/2005 11:55:46 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

This is not about the other people. This is about the choices we make in our own lives. If I don't want to live on a respirator, with a useless body that people have to clean and turn and wipe my ass. If I feel I have lived the kind of life that was enough for me why can't I make the decision to end that life. Why do I have to live so everybody else can feel good about themselves? Answer me that.


432 posted on 02/09/2005 3:36:18 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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