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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"And each of us has a responsibility to determine what "redemption" means. The Judeo-Christian ethos has always maintained taking another person's life, outside of battle, is a grievous sin against God. It certainly doesn't result in redemption. Just the opposite."

Your first point contradicts your second. If each of us has to determine what redemption means, you can't say something "certainly doesn't result in redemption".

You're also misreading my point. I clearly stated that what one person's idea of it was contradicted the other's, not that this movie said "suicide is the way to his redemption".

235 posted on 02/08/2005 3:35:18 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Darkwolf377
Your first point contradicts your second. If each of us has to determine what redemption means, you can't say something "certainly doesn't result in redemption".

No contradiction. I can say that sentence all I want according to how I define redemption, which is the correct definition, IMO.

You and others have their own definitions, which are correct according to your definitions.

But ultimately, there is only one correct definition, only one correct understanding of how a person is redeemed and who does the redeeming. Ultimately, either a person can be redeemed by willfully taking another person's life, or he can't. It's fairly basic black-and-white stuff here.

God is not inscrutable on these things, try as some might to confuse the issue.

236 posted on 02/08/2005 3:59:19 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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