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To: Modernman
(Shrug) That [the existence of divorce and contraceptive child-murder in our churches] is irrelevant to our discussion. Whatever theological differences you want to talk about have nothing to do with the fact that the Pope only has power over other Roman Catholics.

You turn your wives into prostitutes and your children into corpses and that's not relevant to theological discussion? Ok. Whatever.

You just seem to miss the point that even though the Pope is certainly a moral authority for Christians of any denomination, his words have no more power to a non-Roman Catholic than the words of any other mortal.

And as long as you refuse the power of his words, your wives will be prostitutes and your children corpses. Your theology would have it so because you will not listen to the Vicar of Christ.

70 posted on 02/07/2005 11:47:58 AM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer
You turn your wives into prostitutes and your children into corpses and that's not relevant to theological discussion? Ok. Whatever.

You're a brave man, calling my wife a prostitute from behind a computer monitor. I would not reccomend doing that to my face.

Okay, you want to throw insults around? At least Orthodoxy has not spent the last several decades being taken over by pedophiles and homosexuals. What does it say about you that you belong to a church that has condoned the victimization of children?

And as long as you refuse the power of his words, your wives will be prostitutes and your children corpses. Your theology would have it so because you will not listen to the Vicar of Christ.

Perhaps you should clean your own house before you critisize others. Unless, of course, child molestation is part of what the Vicar of Christ teaches.

If the Pope is so great and wise, why has he allowed such crimes to go on for so long?

73 posted on 02/07/2005 11:57:52 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: skellmeyer
WOW,
Sometimes the American Revolution is referred to the the 'Revolt of the Presbyterians', or the 'Revolt of the Ulstermen'. Don't you think the followers of Christ are facing enough with the Star and Crescent crowd? (Would have jumped in sooner, but muh snakes are still settling down after services yesterday)
75 posted on 02/07/2005 12:07:57 PM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: skellmeyer
And as long as you refuse the power of [the Pope's] words, your wives will be prostitutes and your children corpses.

I'd like some input from other Catholics. Is this really how you view the rest of us?

76 posted on 02/07/2005 12:11:59 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: skellmeyer

Well, if you remember, we started with differences between Christians and Muslims. You have started this thread yourself. Now it seems that petty differences between Christians and gaining power over non-catholics are more important to RC church and you than all problems stemming from Muslim intolerance. There is no love in your words whatsoever, sorry. I cannot continue like that. That's what I perceive as a major problem with Catholic church. Power over people is more important and has always been more important throughout the history than any unity among Christians. In fact, I cannot but remember the 4th Crusade that was supposed to be fought against Muslims but ended with sacking of Constantinople instead. It seems nothing has changed since then as far as some Catholics are concerned. A pity.


122 posted on 02/07/2005 1:32:43 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: skellmeyer

Catholics use potentially abortifacient birth control about as often as everyone else. Likewise for abortions (I mean the kind where you go to a "clinic" and get the kid vacumed out or dismembered).

The Catholic Church will issue a divorce -- oops, I mean "annulment", which is totally different -- to whoever wants one.

Just measuring with the same measure here.


156 posted on 02/07/2005 3:00:44 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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