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To: RussianBoor
Somebody here mentioned that Christianity is a kind of Monarchy and "this is how it works". Again, it is very sad that people do not understand the basis of their faith. The Christianity does not uphold the Master-Slave relationship.

You think a monarch has a master-slave relationship with his subjects? What do you do when you honor Christ as King? Monarchs view their subjects as part of their extended families - at least the good ones do. Are you saying Christ is not a good King? The Pope is His Vicar. Sorry, but there's the facts.

30 posted on 02/07/2005 10:09:59 AM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer
Well, let us put it like that: Does a king or a President for this matter have the authority to order you and me something and we should obey? The answer is obviously yes. Quite naturally. If the king or the President is within his rights according to the law. Now take a Moslem. His law is Qur'an. And according to Qur'an his God is within his rights to order him to die or beat his wife or kill an infidel. Plain and simple.

You see, if you subscribe to the concept of Christ as King in the earthly sense, in terms of authority, then you essentially subscribe to this very logic that is questioned (rightly) by the author of the original contribution. Yes, Christ is the King, but of the Kingdom to come. And his main lesson for us is to be humble and to love our neighbour. Obey in love, but not in hate. Could you imagine Christ ordering somebody to kill somebody else? That is only because love and not authority is central to Christianity.
34 posted on 02/07/2005 10:29:47 AM PST by RussianBoor
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To: skellmeyer; RussianBoor
You think a monarch has a master-slave relationship with his subjects? What do you do when you honor Christ as King?

In the Western tradition, the King provides protection, order, and justice to his subjects, in exchange for their loyalty and service. He is not an arbitrary despot. This seems to be the main difference between Western and Eastern conceptions of "King"

157 posted on 02/07/2005 3:06:28 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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