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To: orionblamblam
Creation is no "myth"

You: Arguable.

"and it is not "vague".

"Incorrect. What physical mechanisms did God use? Lay out the specifics in detail."

I've got volumes of books on different theories that actually adhere to the laws of science. Here's a link full of books for you: http://www.icr.org/creationproducts/New_Products.html
I know better than to waste my time explaining how this can be. If you had genuine objective knowledge you'd have thought of it yourself. You have made a choice. You want to believe in evolution even though it defies the very laws of science you adore.

> there is no such thing as a "Christian evolutionist".

"Ah, yes. Here we go: "Anyone who does not believe as I do is a heretic."

Nope. Either you believe what is written or you don't. It's very clear. Creation took place in six literal twenty four hour days. For once in your life, be an adult. Admit you don't believe what God has stated. You cannot have it both ways. You are not a "heretic". You are simply a disbeliever. Does that make you feel better?

> Either you believe what He says in the Bible or you do not.

"I've seen that one can believe the Bible without believing that it is all literal fact. Jesus used parables, did he not? Does it actually matter if there actually was a Good Samaritan? Or can you learn the lesson without it?"

You've been fooled! We are talking about Genesis, not the Good Samaritan or parables. Stay focused.

> The Bible does not support evolution in any manner.

"Nor does it deny it. The Bible does not support relativity either, yet I doubt you'd care to sit on an H-bomb and push the button."

It does DENY it through six literal twenty four hour days! Till you can get beyond your own blind spot there is little point in discussing more with you. At least acknowledge that you don't believe what the Bible states very clearly about Creation.
155 posted on 02/07/2005 9:42:24 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

> "Incorrect. What physical mechanisms did God use? Lay out the specifics in detail."

> I've got volumes of books on different theories ...

None of which are contained in Genesis. Face it: Genesis is vague.

> believe in evolution even though it defies the very laws of science

That's the common Creationist lie, yes. But it remains a lie, no matter how many times repeated.

> Admit you don't believe what God has stated.

I don't believe much of what the Bible says as being literal fact. Whether God "said" what's in the Bible is another discussion entirely.

> You are not a "heretic".

That's because I'm not a Christian and do not claim to be. hwoever, in your dark little world, anyone who claims to be both an evolutionist and a Christian is a heretic.

> We are talking about Genesis, not the Good Samaritan or parables.

And the difference is? Was God's stenographer disallowed from lying in Genesis, but it was OK for Jesus to do so? Why are parables OK in the NT but not the OT?

> six literal twenty four hour days

A great many CHristians disagree with you on the literalness of those 6 days. Since that is manifestly refuted by the natural record, it can be written off as either parable, misunderstanding, or a different definition of what a day is.

> you don't believe what the Bible states very clearly about Creation.

The Bible states very little clearly about the creation of the universe, Earth and life. It says little more than "God did it." that is not helpful in any fashion. Imagine trying to learn how to drive a car, build a car, maintain a car with no more instruction than "Henry Ford did it."


161 posted on 02/07/2005 9:50:58 AM PST by orionblamblam
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