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Religious right fights science for the heart of America [Evolution vs. Creationism]
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 07 February 2005 | Special Report (on USA)

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:50:28 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: RaceBannon
Communism embraced evolution by saying there was no god and evolution proves it.

Communists also wore clothes and ate food. I guess if the communists did it, it must automatically be evil.

And, BTW, the Soviet Union did not adopt the TOE. If anything, scientists who supported the TOE would find themselves in trouble with the authorities.

201 posted on 02/07/2005 8:56:01 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: mlc9852
Actually, I was hoping one of you scientists could define "soul" for me.

None whatsoever. Not of the buisness of a science to define what it can't address. All I know about it is that sneezing is your soul trying to escape. Saying "bless you" crams it back in. Maybe you can catch it there.
202 posted on 02/07/2005 8:57:10 AM PST by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: WildHorseCrash

You can always answer "I don't know".


203 posted on 02/07/2005 8:57:20 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

I'm certain I do. However, I cannot show any evidence for such, so I can't claim it as a difference between humans and other great apes. Do you have anything we can concretely point to and say, "humans have this but great apes don't?"


204 posted on 02/07/2005 8:58:16 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: crail

Wow, I had always heard that your heart stopped when you sneezed so people said bless you because you could die. Learn something new every day on here.


205 posted on 02/07/2005 8:58:24 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Junior

Actually, our DNA is slightly different.


206 posted on 02/07/2005 8:59:06 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
What color is a snarklepuss soul?
207 posted on 02/07/2005 8:59:49 AM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: RaceBannon

Sorry to burst your bubble, but evolution is neither pro-God or anti-God. It is a scientific theory that does not ponder the existence, guidance or necessity of God. Evolution makes no mention of divinity. That's why creationism is a dangerous - it attempts to wedge the supernatural into a subject independent of it. Where does the Bible say evolution is anti-God? Which scripture? I haven't seen it. Like I said in my previous post, the anti-science (not just anti-evolution) thought prevelant in certain religious conservatives is very dangerous to the future competitiveness of America.


208 posted on 02/07/2005 9:00:26 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Junior
Do you have anything we can concretely point to and say, "humans have this but great apes don't?"


209 posted on 02/07/2005 9:01:39 AM PST by malakhi
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To: StonyBurk
Darwinian evolution belongs to that class of godless religions such as Secular Humanism and don't you forget it.

The TOE has nothing to do with religion, except in the minds of fanatics.

210 posted on 02/07/2005 9:05:21 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: PatrickHenry

Is there a full moon tonight?


211 posted on 02/07/2005 9:05:51 AM PST by Killing Time
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To: malakhi
What? You've never seen this:


Animals Are Beautiful People!

212 posted on 02/07/2005 9:06:53 AM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: StonyBurk
Evolution is a godless religion that claims there is NO God.

You are either ignorant of what the TOE really says, or you are a liar. Which one is it?

If you look at the insignia of the Medical Science. You will see a snake on a pole.And the source for that symbol was the Bible.

Nope. That symbol comes from Classical Greek mythology. Try again.

213 posted on 02/07/2005 9:08:07 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: mlc9852
You think the great apes are the ancestors of modern humans?

Nope. Humans are still great apes.

Which humans?

All of us.

214 posted on 02/07/2005 9:09:56 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: malakhi
Ahem.


215 posted on 02/07/2005 9:10:02 AM PST by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: StonyBurk
When the student is of the belief that he/she/it is greater than the schoolmaster then the student fails

And from whence does the schoolmaster come? He was once a student. If you want to treat creationism as sciene, then you must answer where the creator came from? Someone else posted it quite elegantly when they said that the notion of complexity in biology implies a creator. The problem is that where does a necessarily more complicate creator (who created something less complicated) come from? Answer what the nature of that origin and you will begin to open creationsim up to the standards of science. Otherwise, it needs to be treated as religion.

Evolution is a godless religion that claims there is NO God.

No such claim is made in evolution, not any other branch od science. As a matter of fact, no science topic acknowledges God. Therefore, any science that lacks a reference to God, must be anti-God, and is a atheistic religion in your view. Therefore, all science must be wiped from school cirriculums, according to your own logic.

and your reference to the medical symbology comes from Greek mythology, not the Bible. Again, this is another example of how certain fundamentalist Christian preaching has warped not only science, but history as well.

216 posted on 02/07/2005 9:10:32 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: StonyBurk
probably for the same reason the godless evolutionists LIE about the Bible

The TOE does not address the Bible in any way.

217 posted on 02/07/2005 9:11:01 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: doc30

Well, for one thing, the Bible clearly states that God created man and woman separate from other animals.


218 posted on 02/07/2005 9:11:59 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Modernman

That is the silliest post I have ever read.


219 posted on 02/07/2005 9:12:29 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Junior

A spoken language.


220 posted on 02/07/2005 9:14:09 AM PST by mlc9852
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