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This is Your Captain Screaming
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | Febraury 5, 2005 | Nigel Ogden and Julia Llewellyn Smith

Posted on 02/06/2005 7:41:01 PM PST by aculeus

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To: dighton; general_re; Thinkin' Gal; hellinahandcart

Ping.


21 posted on 02/06/2005 8:04:51 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Incredible. . .


22 posted on 02/06/2005 8:10:18 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Nov3
"...Some of them could see Tim out of the window...."

Wow, that's interesting. I assume the writer means that passengers could see through the cockpit door.

I know I've never been able to see the nose of an airplane while seated and looking out through the window.

23 posted on 02/06/2005 8:10:30 PM PST by Victor
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To: aculeus; Happygal; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Thinkin' Gal; ...
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Dear God ...

Bookmarked, with this.

24 posted on 02/06/2005 8:14:40 PM PST by dighton
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To: StACase

Probably not, as early as 1990. But even ISO9000 companies make mistakes.


25 posted on 02/06/2005 8:14:50 PM PST by expatpat
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To: aculeus

17,000 Feet, face outside the aircraft? I thought that, a la Payne Stewart, being that high without pressure and oxygen caused death within minutes. Could there be, at least, some exaggeration going on?


26 posted on 02/06/2005 8:20:05 PM PST by jammer
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To: aculeus

Yeah, sure.

I have inside information that he broke out the windshield because he saw a monster on the nose of the plane.


27 posted on 02/06/2005 8:24:14 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (http://drunkengop.blogspot.com/)
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To: StACase

Yeah, and they've got a really good mission statement too!


28 posted on 02/06/2005 8:34:27 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Sneering in the face of, well, almost everyone, for a very long time.)
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To: Wingsofgold; Darlin'; Letitring
Ping

So9

29 posted on 02/06/2005 8:39:22 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: jammer

No, hypoxia at that altitude and velocity resulting in his passing out. Had they been stationary he probably would've had some brain damage, but at nearly 400 mph he had plenty of O2. Also, they were in a nosedive with steadily increasing oxygen.

Payne Stewart's Lear suffered decompression on its' way up to 41,000 feet, most likely through a failure of the pressurization pumps. They died because the co-pilot didn't follow the rules - one of the flight crew MUST be strapped into their seat and wearing oxygen at ALL TIMES above FL 12. (12,000' above sea level.)


30 posted on 02/06/2005 8:42:28 PM PST by datura (Destroy The UN, the MSM, and China. The rest will fall into line once we get rid of these.)
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To: StACase

What happened was: the engineer replaced the windshield and used the several same size bolts as he had removed, and also re-used some of the originals, as there weren't enough new bolts in stock.

It turned out that the bolts that were holding the windshield were 1 size smaller than the specs call for.

I saw this on the discovery channel last week. It's a truly amazing story, and there is much more to it than you can get from a 6 paragraph blurb in your local rag.


31 posted on 02/06/2005 8:51:24 PM PST by Don W (The most inhospitable places for free inquiry today are the universities.)
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To: AVNevis
You know what happened 2 days before? I was born.

Why you punk kid! What's someone your age doing on a site like this? You're young enough to be my grandkid!

32 posted on 02/06/2005 8:58:35 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: dighton; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Lijahsbubbe; Tijeras_Slim; ...
The aircraft was losing height so quickly the pressure soon equalised and the wind started rushing in - at 630kmh and -17C. Paper was blowing round all over the place and it was impossible for Alistair to hear air-traffic control. We were spiralling down at 80 feet per second with no autopilot and no radio.

They should have been more prepared.


34 posted on 02/06/2005 9:17:28 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: IonImplantGuru
"What's someone your age doing on a site like this? "

Learning from you.

35 posted on 02/06/2005 9:33:32 PM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: IonImplantGuru

"Why you punk kid! What's someone your age doing on a site like this? You're young enough to be my grandkid!"

To contribute to the debate from a unique perspective. I have also found that I learn as much here as in any history class.

As far as I know there is no minimum age.


36 posted on 02/06/2005 9:41:51 PM PST by AVNevis (You are never too young to stand up for America)
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To: StACase

BA= British Airways??


37 posted on 02/06/2005 9:56:09 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel; DAVEY CROCKETT; jerseygirl; WestCoastGal; appalachian_dweller

"In 1992, a report was published showing that a BA engineer, working
under pressure, had fitted a new windscreen with bolts that were too
small. "

Now why am I not surprised......

One has to be curious about the other planes who "fall out of the sky".

This is still an amazing incident, with several heroes.


38 posted on 02/06/2005 10:18:35 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: AVNevis
"To contribute to the debate from a unique perspective. I have also found that I learn as much here as in any history class."

Welcome to FR, kid, even if you're not exactly a newbie.

I hope some of your conservative leanings rub off on your classmates.  We can use more young conservatives in CA.  Gives hope that the west coast may yet turn around some day.  I bet we will see you leading the charge in a few years.

So, stick around kid, the funs just startin'.   Be careful though, this place can be addictive.

FReegards,

RT

39 posted on 02/06/2005 11:06:01 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: RightWingAtheist

As God is my witness, I thought it was going to be about Howard Dean, too!


40 posted on 02/07/2005 2:42:19 AM PST by Miss Marple
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