Female Member of NC-Based Guard Unit Demoted for Mud-Wrestling Party in Iraq

TBO.COM ^

[Old Sarge]

But it's so FASHIONABLE to trash the Guard/Reserves - after all, it's not like they're REAL soldiers, now are they? They're not Special Forces, nor Delta, and I bet they haven't even MET Chuck Norris!! They CAN'T be real soldiers!

(/sarcasm BARELY off)

[Darksheare]

"I stand by what I wrote."

And you are dead wrong.

"The record of the guard and reserve military police units called up has been less than stellar."

And I challenge you to show proof for your broad brush smear against all the aforementioned units.

[spunkets]

"Four or five other members of the 105th who were spectators received counseling, Johnson said."

Were the mud wrestlers that bad?

[monkeywrench]

My thoughts, exactly.

[mystery-ak]

Well, let me say something about my hubby's Guard AVN unit....they out flew, out performed and even repaired the so-called regular Army's choppers...and were so acknowledge for their performance in Iraq...

[Darksheare]

You sure are living up to your name.

While I appreciate your attempt to insult me, honest I am honored, you have teh burden of proof to prove that all the MP units are what you say they are.
Understand, ALL MP units.
You are smearing all MP units.

"I admire your loyalty to your unit ... but I would rather you showed more loyalty to the US Army and the Department of Defense. "

Come on, you can insult better than that.

[F16Fighter]

Four or five other members of the 105th who were spectators received counseling, Johnson said.

I'm assuming there's a "wink-wink" involved here...

Hey -- let the kids play! It helps them blow off steam in between getting shot at and car bomb threats.

[Old Sarge]

And I stand by what I write. So you've got ten years longevity on me, so you claim. BFD.

940th MP BN, KYARNG, 95B's with over 50% of their ranks on the KSP rosters (And no, since I don't work at MILPO, I don't have percentages);

223rd MP Company, KYARNG, well over three-fourths on the municipal roles.

My own unit has four State and local troopers, all who do ADSW on JSO.

And I'll thank you not to question my integrity - yours is already there.

Don't reply again. I won't answer.

[Lead Moderator]

How about knocking off the personal insults?

[Lunkhead_01]

We have two incidents. The Abu Graib incident is a scandal that shows the alleged leadership of an entire MP brigade was not doing their job. We had "soldiers" in that incident who acted more like frat boys in Animall House than as member of the US Army. You should read the official report of that incident before you claim they are doing a stellar job.

And we have these dimwits deciding to strip and wrestle in the mud. What sort of dimwits are we allowing to run amok?

[StarCMC]

The problem - to me - with what you say is that you are taking the actions of a few and making a blanket statement about ALL Guard & Reserve. There are a lot of $#itheads out there who are active duty too. But ya know what?? They - and you - are defending the freedoms we enjoy here. As such, they get my thanks yous and respect. The only people you can make statements about are the ones the are ill behaved, specifically these chicks and the specific soldiers at Abu Ghraib.

[dennisw]

To add to the mirth, merriment and wagering (??) the mud wrestling was interracial

[MEG33]

You do insult and painting with a broad brush well...Care to back that up?

[Darksheare]

"We have two incidents."
And that is your SOLE basis for proof that ALL MP units are scum?

If this were court, you'd be laughed out the door.

"The Abu Graib incident is a scandal that shows the alleged leadership of an entire MP brigade was not doing their job."
Not true, the other shifts from that unit had no such problems and did not behave that way.

"You should read the official report of that incident before you claim they are doing a stellar job. "

So just because a handful of idiots decided to get stupid, you smear ALL MP's?

"And we have these dimwits deciding to strip and wrestle in the mud. "

Whuppdeedoo, a bunch of girls decide to wrestle in teh mud, and some guys referee it.
Swap out the girls with guys and what do you have?

And on top of it all, it is not ALL MP units.
AGAIN I ask you, where is your proof and grounds to smear ALL MP units and ALL National Guard and Reserve soldiers?

[RightOnline]

Ping.........and a sigh..........

[international american]

Bump to the doggone top!!!!!!!!

[Clemenza]

The only thing sexier than a woman in uniform is a woman out of uniform, preferably in the mud.

[Future Snake Eater]

Yeah, I saw it. It's being handled appropriately. No one's jumping overboard by crying for jail time, nor are they trying to dismiss it. Reduction in rank, permanent record marks, and letters of reprimand for everyone! Huzzah!

[F.J. Mitchell]

Ladies, ladies, ladies, were you not informed during your indictrination training prior to your departure for Iraq, that burkas is the proper attire in Muslim nations for young ladies participating in Mud Wrestling events, and since the Wardrobe malfunction during the halftime show of last year's Super Bowl, Burkas for the first time will be required dress for female entertainers, right here in this, the Muslim rated, most corrupt nation on earth?

Seems the homosexual lobby is more powerful than we could have ever imagined.