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Canseco confessions (It's Bush's fault!)
New York Daily News ^ | 2/6/2005 | Michael O'Keeffe

Posted on 02/06/2005 9:31:27 AM PST by AmishDude

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To: Howlin

Bernie was heard to exclaim that she was "incredible" but that's another story.


41 posted on 02/06/2005 11:59:00 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: tallhappy
"Strange responses to this thread - A lot of denial."

I agree wholeheartedly. The reality of so-called 'Sports' is that results trump the means and no amount of denial can hide this sad fact. The ongoing disintegration of Pro Hockey should be a warning to these overpaid doped out performers that there are limits to what the fans will tolerate and ignoring this type of problem will only go on for so long before irrelevancy is bestowed on the deceivers.

42 posted on 02/06/2005 12:11:15 PM PST by drt1
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To: MadIvan
Conseco was arguably the worst defensive major leaguer to ever play the game. I will never forget the time he settled under a fly ball in right field only to have it hit him in the head and bounce into the stands for a home run.
43 posted on 02/06/2005 12:14:29 PM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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To: dts32041
Canseco says that he not only used them, but that all players should

according to Madonna under endowed.

Of course, if everyone else is taking 'roids, he no longer would be the only one in the locker room with pea-sized "parts."

44 posted on 02/06/2005 12:19:39 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: MadIvan
He is and was overrated ...I live in the Bay Area and remember his tenure with the A's very well. A world-class jerk who almost single-handedly bankrolled the Danville (Blackhawk) town coffers with his speeding fines.

He also says he never would have made it to the major leagues - much less become the 1988 American League MVP - without their help.

That's because he didn't possess a good grasp of baseball fundamentals and was basically a crappy player. Anyone recall the flyball bouncing off his head?

He's a disgrace to the game.

45 posted on 02/06/2005 12:20:18 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: tallhappy
This has nothing to do with George Bush. What are you, an idiot?

Did you read the article? In the highlighted portion of text in this article, Canseco claims that Bush knew, and did nothing about, steroid use by his players.

46 posted on 02/07/2005 5:24:39 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: AmishDude
Canseco says he never slept with Madonna.

Only "made out"...well, I wouldn't waste the night with Madonna by SLEEPING with her either!

47 posted on 02/07/2005 5:32:18 AM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: BlackRazor

To be fair, he said Bush "should have known". It is obvious to me this is an attempt to get Bush into the story and to help the creep sell his book.


48 posted on 02/07/2005 7:21:29 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: BlackRazor
Did you read the article? In the highlighted portion of text in this article, Canseco claims that Bush knew, and did nothing about, steroid use by his players.

Which is nonsense on multiple levels.

George Bush has nothing to do with the use of steroids or the steroid scandal.

Are you claiming he does?

49 posted on 02/07/2005 8:05:31 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: AmishDude

They were talking about this book on Cold Pizza (ESPN-2) this morning...and even the liberal sports writers admitted that is was unlikely that "any" owner would know whats going on in the clubhouse or locker room.

Even hands-on owners like Jerry Jones or George Steinbrener would be hard-pressed to know what individual athletes are doing...let alone, someone with the deligating style of George Bush. These people are unbelieveable.


50 posted on 02/07/2005 8:08:05 AM PST by cwb
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To: AmishDude

Go ahead and write a book if you want and say what you want..confess...go for it. But to rat out your friends for a buck is disgusting.


51 posted on 02/07/2005 8:10:33 AM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: cwb
I made the point above that if Bush "should have known", surely the manager would have known and the GM, etc., etc.

But this is the road Canseco has chosen and there's no going back now.

52 posted on 02/07/2005 8:30:39 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Hildy

It's not just that, he's clearly embellishing (at best) just to get more copies sold. He isn't even doing this to get steroids out of baseball. He's a proponent of steroid use!


53 posted on 02/07/2005 8:31:52 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: tallhappy
Are you claiming he does?

You're funny. This started when you came on this thread saying there were a lot of strange responses and "a lot of denial" over this article. Considering most people were mocking Canseco over his implication of Bush in the matter, your assertion of "denial" made it appear as though you were the one who thought there was something to Canseco's accusation. When another poster called you on this, you called him an idiot for bringing up Bush, which is what I took exception to.

Moral of the story: Read the article before you call people idiots.

54 posted on 02/07/2005 8:44:57 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: AmishDude
It is obvious to me this is an attempt to get Bush into the story and to help the creep sell his book.

I see "60 Minutes" now booked him, solely for the Bush allegation, I'm sure.

But that having been said, if indeed Canseco is lying about the ballplayers he mentioned, I suspect that we will see a bunch of slander/libel suits against Canseco, and if we don't, perhaps there is a little more truth to Canseco's allegations than most would like to admit.

55 posted on 02/08/2005 6:55:17 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: dfwgator
Canseco will be caught in at least one lie. His specific accusations are too outrageous and too coincidental. And that will do it. The one lie will destroy the whole book.

What's funny is that even Mike Greenberg on ESPN radio called Canseco "uncredible" and he's right. Canseco has a plethora of legal problems, and well-publicized financial problems. I noticed that the day this came out, ESPN radio's little updates went from putting the Bush allegations at the top of the story to ignoring it entirely by the end of the day. Everybody knows what this book is, but it's also clear what the Bush connection is.

60 minutes will be very sneaky about it. They will not mention the connection at all, and then put it in the story without much comment and no refutation. Then they will move on to more baseball. You would think CBS would be a little gun shy.

56 posted on 02/08/2005 7:13:34 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

Well like I said, if Canseco is lying, let's see the lawsuits.


57 posted on 02/08/2005 7:14:51 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: AmishDude
There's a HUGE difference between " had to have been aware " and "I know he was aware"

But that's not going to matter to the left, they're going to go after this like hungry hounds...

58 posted on 02/08/2005 7:20:35 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: cwb

I was listening to ESPN all night a few nights ago and I recall someone saying that at the time steroids weren't banned in MLB so what was W supposed to do if he did know? Fire them? Discipline them? Yeah the players association would have surely cooperated in that venture in 1992. Right?


59 posted on 02/08/2005 7:21:15 AM PST by xp38
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To: dfwgator

Not that simple. These are all public figures and it's easier to let it go away. Certainly, the accusation against Bush would be actionable, except that it's so vague. He "should have known" is nothing more than a smear, but it's legal.


60 posted on 02/08/2005 7:24:13 AM PST by AmishDude
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