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9/11 hijacker used bypass code to obtain California license
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 2/5/05 | Don Thompson - AP

Posted on 02/05/2005 8:59:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge; nopardons; Howlin

And the President of our nation wants to give them more access. What's wrong with this picture?...


21 posted on 02/06/2005 1:41:17 AM PST by A Navy Vet (Do any US representives compare their copious rhetoric to their Constitutional oath?)
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To: A Navy Vet; DoughtyOne; nopardons; Howlin
Is there ANYTHING that our chief executive can do wrong? Is he so infallible that he can't have a skewed view of geo-politics, especially regarding Mexico? Do you not realize that Bush supports and encourages a pan-American entity? It's in his rhetoric.

Understand his foreign policies to bring peace to the Middle East via freedom is good, but his globalist policies to create "unions" within the "americas" is as ill-fated as that of the European Union. That "union" is dying on the vine from PC, fear, greed, and stupidity. Many of the leaders of those countries have given up because of the reasons just stated. Is this what you want for yours, just for the sake of supporting a political party?

22 posted on 02/06/2005 1:58:31 AM PST by A Navy Vet (Do any US representives compare their copious rhetoric to their Constitutional oath?)
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To: Beckwith; A Navy Vet; glock rocks; pbrown
>>a Social Security number is the nation's standard identification number<<

" have my original social security card (1957). It clearly has stamped on it, in bold, blue letters:"

"Not to be used for identification"

You know when I look at all this crap going on today, I am starting to have a hard time believing that this isn't part of some Master Plan. Our SSI cards have printed in red letters "Not to be used for identification", yet what happened 40 years ago? Our SSI cards became just that, our singular most important ID card if you didn't have a drivers license! There was about 10 or 15 years where they would take either one, your SSI or the DL card for proof positive as to who you were. Now you can't get on a flight unless you have a state issued ID card.

23 posted on 02/06/2005 2:07:05 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: NormsRevenge

And yet they could'nt send my renewal notice to the right address, and then suspend my DL for failure to report an accident (which I HAD reported a full year and a half earlier) charge me an extra $55.00 to reinstate. Tell me again what I'm getting in return for my state tax burden other than a flood of new "Mexifornians" every year? I know people die trying to get here but dammit, get in line.


24 posted on 02/06/2005 3:54:06 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (I'm back...with NEW and IMPROVED knuckle-dragging action.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"But a Social Security number is the nation's standard identification number..."

Which may be true, but it's still illegal.

When our vaunted gub'mint passed SS in 1935, or thereabouts, they promised absolutely that the SS number could NEVER be used as an identification number. It even says so on my Social Security Card.

Rules and promises mean little to liberal politicians.

25 posted on 02/06/2005 4:25:43 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Danae

The very day I arrived in Oregon on the way to Wasington, from CA and stopping to buy gas only to find out I couldn't pump my own gas was the day I decided Oregon was not for me. That was Jan 1980, and I haven't returned.


26 posted on 02/06/2005 4:41:22 AM PST by wita
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To: NormsRevenge
Although the process changed a year ago,

and our WOT started over THREE years ago......

27 posted on 02/06/2005 7:08:56 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy Brat")
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To: mindspy; mysto; holyscroller; ozarkgirl; Outland; Rick Deckard; ZeitgeistSurfer; Klickitat; ...

"DMV officials closed the loophole after the attacks, prodded in part by former investigator Paul Satkowski, a whistle-blower who says he suffered retaliation from DMV officials based in part on his frequent and sometimes public warnings about driver's license security flaws."

Retaliation, for speaking up against a criminal enterprise?

There's a lot of that going on. Way too much.


28 posted on 02/06/2005 7:26:25 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: SoCalPol

"They were also in the 2000 San Diego phone book"

Hiding in plain sight.


29 posted on 02/06/2005 7:27:36 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne
Yes, but since that terrorist had a license, he could get car insurance. On top of that we knew who he was and that protected us from danger.

That's EXACTLY what Gil Cedillo is pushing in California (again). I hope his proposal is rejected, as it should be.

30 posted on 02/06/2005 7:34:30 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: NormsRevenge
California was one of the first states to require that Social Security numbers be verified as part of a routine identification check when driver's licenses were issued. But a 1994 court decision required the state to also give driver's licenses to qualified applicants, such as foreign students, who had no Social Security number

Federal court?

31 posted on 02/06/2005 7:39:26 AM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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To: A Navy Vet

I hear you. I agree with you. I just wish others could see it.

The FTAA will require us to join a federation that will make decisions regarding U.S. policy. Places like Panama, Columbia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Mexico and every other nation that joins, will have members sitting on a committee that will decide U.S. trade policy. These policies impact on other internal matters.

It is stunning to think that anyone would agree to this.


32 posted on 02/06/2005 8:11:14 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: janetgreen
I wish someone would put that jack-ss on a bus headed to Mexico. I am so sick of the leftist underground.
33 posted on 02/06/2005 8:17:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: A Navy Vet; PRND21; ravingnutter; FreeReign; COEXERJ145; bayourod; cspackler; hchutch; Tempest; ...
Is there ANYTHING that our chief executive can do wrong?

A better question might be is there anything that you can't hang around Bush's neck? Bush's name isn't even in this article, yet here you are, draggingi him into it -- not to mention BAITING other posters by pinging them to a thread they aren't on.

I'll ping some friends to help you out.

34 posted on 02/06/2005 8:18:07 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: endthematrix

California still issues state identification cards - look just like a license - to people that do not even live in California. You could come to California from any state and get an ID.

Seems odd to me. A state ID should be for residents of the state they are in only. But, maybe it makes no difference as someone could just move an no one is going to take it back from them when they do.


35 posted on 02/06/2005 8:28:32 AM PST by BJungNan (Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
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To: Howlin

Immigration and all of the issues surrounding it like licenses, social benefits, education, Terrorism, etc. are REALLY complicated and I've just decided to take a breather and wait to see what proposals come at both Fed and State levels. IMO This can't be force fed and I think it's time to turn down some of the rhetoric without losing sight of the ultimate goals of the dabate. MTC FWIW


36 posted on 02/06/2005 8:41:18 AM PST by drt1
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To: endthematrix

As they should. The SSA is no better than anyone else at verifying somebody's identity. There was a story years ago about a guy that got his pig an SSN. States should use the same rigor in issuing driver's licenses as is done issuing passports.


37 posted on 02/06/2005 8:47:13 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: lewislynn

SSNs are a moronic way to verify the identity of ANYONE.


38 posted on 02/06/2005 8:51:42 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: DoughtyOne

Gil Cedillo doesn't even give a second thought to the 9 billion bucks it costs California each year to support these pests, let alone thinking about the security implications. He is useless, yet the sheep here keep him coming back. I think his car must bear a bumper sticker for Atzlan...


39 posted on 02/06/2005 8:52:47 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping *shaking head*


40 posted on 02/06/2005 8:53:24 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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