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To: gobucks
But, is it really the truth? Who taught you this?

Nobody taught me this, but I amalgamated this conclusion from several things I learned and some I realized on my own.

Is it really the truth? In a very large sense, it has to be. (If you doubt it, try teaching a cat to write sonnets.) But asserting that both innate ability and experience are involved in creativity is akin to saying that orange juice has both water and citric acid in it. It's clearly true, but doesn't say much about what the proportions are or what else might be in the mix.

I'm not attempting to dodge your question, though it's quite imprecise. If the question is formulated as "are innate factors more important than experience in creative ability", I believe it to be true. Some leftists have maintained that the environment is the only determining factor behind such things, but studies on twins have decisively abolished such nonsense. But exactly how much heredity vs environment play in creativity is a much more difficult question to answer.

I'm not sure if you are have a point or are just pursuing a pleasant philosophical discussion. But if you have a point, you need to get to it. I will not be checking FR much more today. (If you're just pursuing a philosophical discussion, that's fine too, but I have no more time for it today.)

94 posted on 02/05/2005 1:45:23 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: Joe Bonforte
(If you doubt it, try teaching a cat to write sonnets.)

Cats. Ayn Rand could only handle the responsibility of cats. Not dogs, definitely not kids. Just cats.

My point is this: Christians are quite capable of out of the box thinking.

But given how public schools are run, it is not a mystery why so few post here and make an issue of it.

ToE folks, on the other hand, these folks are seriously creative. You can tell from the posts.

My point is not philosophical; my point is about bias. If you believe that Christians can't be creative b/c its an instrinsic characteristic, that is called bigotry. It is a common feature here.

You said part of the real mission was teaching kids how to read, write, and think. I'm telling you Joe, there are a lot of atheists who definitely do not want to allow kids, esp. Christian kids, to learn how to think. Especially think creatively.

It is not an accident the way schools are structured today.

140 posted on 02/05/2005 2:19:15 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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