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To: NDGG

"Evolution and thus Naturalism were only created because science found that Materialim (the belief that the earth just was- no end and no beginning) was impossible by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (matter is in a constant state of disinigration and decay- thus our bodies break down and our cars rust). "

That is such embarassing hooey. As a mechanical engineer who is into thermodynamics I can tell you the second law precludes nothing, as long as there is a free energy gradient to drive it. That is, if there is a Sun (energy source) and a sink (the low temperature of the universe), evolution is quite possible and is even favored because it promotes the disorder of the global universe by promoting local order.

Take some thermodynamics classes (pleeeez!) before you spout such baloney, find out what the difference is between a closed system, and an open system. You sound like Jeremy Rifkin, the guy behind the gibberish in Al Gore's "Earth In The Balance". Now Rifkin is a real atheist wingnut you can relate your theories to, he believes computers hasten the entropy degradation of the earth and should be banned because of the law of entropy. In fact, read his book called Entropy and you can see a mirror image of your crapola. The Luddite envirowackos believe in the same theory you do.


180 posted on 02/05/2005 3:21:19 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote; NDGG
: "Evolution and thus Naturalism were only created because science found that Materialim (the belief that the earth just was- no end and no beginning) was impossible by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (matter is in a constant state of disinigration and decay- thus our bodies break down and our cars rust). "

That is such embarassing hooey.
That is such embarassing hooey. (Stands saying again)

As Darwin begain his "Notebook on Transmutation of Species" in 1837, thirteen years before Clasius published his work on Thermodynamics, it's safe to say defending the Materialism found imppossible by the 2d Law of Thermodynamics was not Darwin's motivation.

305 posted on 02/05/2005 7:18:32 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Evolution is to ID/Creation as the Free-market is to Socialism.)
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