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Reformed Lib Sees The Light
Andrew Sullivan ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 02/05/2005 7:53:21 AM PST by Slehn

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Above is an e-mail sent by a reformed lib to Andrew Sullivan thanking him for the effect he has had in her life. She gets it!
1 posted on 02/05/2005 7:53:21 AM PST by Slehn
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To: Slehn
Bless her heart! Reading her words brought chills down my spine -- chills of keen joy. One of the great things about truth? It frees us of delusion. Delusions keep us mired, quagmired. It dims the sun each day, it deadens colors.

I do pray about her marriage. It is going to be harder and harder for this bride to be continually subjected to her husband's negativity, rages. She can do it tho. She must create her own "room with a view". It can be done.

2 posted on 02/05/2005 8:14:40 AM PST by Alia
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To: Slehn
"While I was raised in a fairly conservative family, I came of age during the '60s. I met my husband while we were both campaigning for Eugene McCarthy for president. We were married the week of the Democratic convention in Chicago"

My memory may be off here, but wasn't the Democrat convention in Chicago in 1968 and didn't they nominate Hubert Humphrey? Was not McCarthy the candidate in 1972. Did this woman and her husband get married in 1968 by proxy, then formally meet in 1972?
3 posted on 02/05/2005 8:16:24 AM PST by Bar-Face
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To: Slehn

Excellent! I just sent this to my older, female cousin who's a die-hard lib in NC; hope she sees the light.


4 posted on 02/05/2005 8:20:59 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Bar-Face

Humphrey was the nominee in 68, McGovern in 72. McCarthy ran against Humphrey and Kennedy in the primaries and is credited with unseating LBJ because of his strong showing in the 68 New Hampshire primary. Bad memories.


5 posted on 02/05/2005 8:22:14 AM PST by speedy
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To: Slehn

This is good news. Maybe more of them will learn to go towards the light.


6 posted on 02/05/2005 8:23:29 AM PST by Allegra ("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
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To: Slehn

Very moving story. I don't think most people convert so quickly. This woman has great intellectual honesty to re-examine her views so intently. We need to get her over here on FR. It does seem like maybe a quarter to a third of Freepers are converts from the left. If you took the number who are either converts or grew up in Rat households, I'll bet over half would fall into that category.


7 posted on 02/05/2005 8:26:07 AM PST by speedy
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To: Bar-Face
My memory may be off here, but wasn't the Democrat convention in Chicago in 1968 and didn't they nominate Hubert Humphrey? Was not McCarthy the candidate in 1972. Did this woman and her husband get married in 1968 by proxy, then formally meet in 1972?

It was McCarthy's growing candidacy in late 1967 and early 1968 that forced President Johnson to bow out in March 1968.

McCarthy was the Howard Dean of 1968...and of course the power brokers of the Democrat Party went with the establishment....Humphrey.

Sound familiar?

McGovern was in 1972.

8 posted on 02/05/2005 8:27:19 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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"My memory may be off here..."

A little googling reveals that McCarthy also ran for the nom. in 1968, losing to HHH. So maybe this is what she's referring to.

Something about this letter seems a wee bit off though, so you may be correct.


9 posted on 02/05/2005 8:28:49 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: Slehn

Bump !


10 posted on 02/05/2005 8:29:44 AM PST by Edgewood Pilot
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To: Slehn

Excellent post.I too was a "Clean for Gene" person, I just evolved far earlier than this woman back to my conservative roots. I bet there are legions out there in this same boat. And the more that come out, the more the leftists will continue thier implosion.


11 posted on 02/05/2005 8:32:29 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Slehn
This article/letter is a perfect example of why the Left will never willingly surrender their monopoly over the universities and public school system. They know there are millions like this woman who will live by the pap they are spoon fed. They know you can never offer differing points of view, not REAL differing points of view, because they loose (big time) every time. Once she had a real chance to see a different view and had to make her own mind up, instead of having it made up for her, the choice was easy.

This is also why you will never see a real (REAL) debate about abortion. It has to be debated in slogans and bumper sticker jargon. Real intellectual and mature discussion and the house of cards fall. I have never seen a single pro-death culture devotee win a debate without being the first to get into an overheated emotional shouting match.
12 posted on 02/05/2005 8:43:25 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: Mark in the Old South
This article/letter is a perfect example of why the Left will never willingly surrender their monopoly over the universities and public school system. They know there are millions like this woman who will live by the pap they are spoon fed. They know you can never offer differing points of view, not REAL differing points of view, because they loose (big time) every time. Once she had a real chance to see a different view and had to make her own mind up, instead of having it made up for her, the choice was easy.

The choice may have been obvious, but it clearly was not easy.

You are absolutely correct though, the Left cannot stand a real debate or a real presentation of fact.

Anyone who honestly searches for the truth will move away from the Left.

13 posted on 02/05/2005 9:07:40 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Slehn

While volunteering at the local Republican campaign headquarters I met a woman who has had exactly the same experience (post 9/11) as this woman right down to the tension in her marriage with her still-liberal husband.


14 posted on 02/05/2005 9:17:16 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Bar-Face

the McCarthy contingent at the '68 convention in Chicago were those who engaged with the police in (as I recall) McCormack Park. The McCarthy movement was huge in '68, even tho he didn't get the nomination.


15 posted on 02/05/2005 9:28:33 AM PST by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: Slehn

And maybe one day it will happen to Andrew again.


16 posted on 02/05/2005 9:31:13 AM PST by waterman478
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To: Slehn

Thank you for posting this. I made the same pilgrimage in my late teens and early twenties. Nice to know the blogs are having such great effect. God bless this lady and welcome to our side.


17 posted on 02/05/2005 9:34:58 AM PST by Luke21
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Bobby Kennedy's assassination changed the Democrat dynamic in 1968. He had run over the McCarthy crowd and was on his way to the nomination and the presidency in early June. When Bobby was killed, the Johnson wing nominated Humphrey and lost the election despite running against two conservatives.


18 posted on 02/05/2005 9:37:45 AM PST by Luke21
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To: speedy; Slehn

Convert standing up to be counted Bump! FR is directly responsible for my awakening, as my screen name attests.


19 posted on 02/05/2005 9:46:37 AM PST by I_saw_the_light (The Democrats would have an Encounter Session. Our President would throw down.)
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To: Slehn
Here's a link to the article she mentions: http://www.andrewsullivan.com/thewar.php?artnum=20011007

Here's an excerpt from it:

Perhaps the most admirable part of the response to the conflict that began on Sept. 11 has been a general reluctance to call it a religious war. Officials and commentators have rightly stressed that this is not a battle between the Muslim world and the West, that the murderers are not representative of Islam. President Bush went to the Islamic Center in Washington to reinforce the point. At prayer meetings across the United States and throughout the world, Muslim leaders have been included alongside Christians, Jews and Buddhists.

The only problem with this otherwise laudable effort is that it doesn't hold up under inspection. The religious dimension of this conflict is central to its meaning. The words of Osama bin Laden are saturated with religious argument and theological language. Whatever else the Taliban regime is in Afghanistan, it is fanatically religious...

When asked to sum up his message to the people of the West, bin Laden couldn't have been clearer: ''Our call is the call of Islam that was revealed to Muhammad. It is a call to all mankind. We have been entrusted with good cause to follow in the footsteps of the messenger and to communicate his message to all nations.''

20 posted on 02/05/2005 10:03:35 AM PST by mathprof
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