[hedgetrimmer]

Oh but they can steal billions of dollars in the oil for food program, the largest corruption scandal in the history of the earth, in dollar amount, and get off scott free from any penalties because people like to claim the are so incompentent they couldn't possibly be such good thieves.

Well they very successfully caused the genocide in Rwanda to happen ( and they admit it) and that makes them too dumb to find their way to the bathroom?

They will not put a stop to the genocide in Dafur Sudan, because they are in cahoots with the communist chinese, and you say they are not capable of acting to harm the united states with sustainable development policies injected into our government system by president clinton and the President's council on sustainable development?

Do you really claim that?

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Yes I do claim that.

The UN is a bunch of incompetent, corrupt buffoons.

Your examples of Rwanda, Sudan, and OilforFood are all sterling examples.

Agenda 21 is just another utopian UN fanstasy that will collapse under the wieght of the UN's corruption and venality.

This thread reads like a transcript from some 1990s militia shortwave radio broadcast.

[bill1952]

Not to mention the full court press that the MSM and most universities are putting into the promotion of such policies, even if they do not mention UN Agenda 21.

I was dismayed to read in one Op-Ed a nasty rant against the red states because they don't put more public money into public transportation, but rather "waste it" on such things as *gasp* highways.
It really got to me that the bastions of the blue (highly congested cities) believe that not only are we stupid, but also truly believe that we must follow and fund their inner city agenda.

Even here in Florida there was the high speed line fiasco.
Fortunately, that was stopped by the voters, but the choice came down to money for schools or money for a train.

Or vastly increased taxes.

With unlimited immigration and increasing amounts of land being declared off limits, it may well be that this will be the case in a few dozen years, and even if it is not part of a conscious design or plan, the result will be the same.

[subterfuge]

"Do you really claim that?"

Hey hedge. If you notice, there are a lot of posters on the forum who are new, that seem to frequently deride those long time FReepers who are more inclined to look at the facts. I can't decide if they are leftist plants who are just here to disrupt and confuse, or if they are just naive and clueless.

Your observations are right on the money. I think there is a lot of subversion going on in this forum right now. Fortunately FReepers are armed with cogent reasoning and the truth.

Regards!