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1 posted on 02/03/2005 7:14:21 PM PST by kcvl
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I think the Post has had to correct their story.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 7:17:28 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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I thought I smelled a Socialist RAT!! The article just didn't make sense, not after what W said last night!

The White House should haul them over the Coals!!


5 posted on 02/03/2005 7:22:18 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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and some people here believed it!!!


8 posted on 02/03/2005 7:26:42 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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The post is hurting, this isn't helping them at all (not that i want them to be helped)

They are all but giving away the paper for free. On the radio this morning on my 1 hour-20 mile commute i heard three adds from the post outlining their top stories. They used classic stupid "cliff hanger" statements to grab attention. EX-"Who might be taking the lead role in a new Apprentice next season? She's done hard time! find out today in the TV section of your Washington post"
Immediately after each aid aired the local news come on and then basically told you all the current news. News Papers are dead. They need to improve their crossword puzzles, movie listings, and comic sections because thats all they are good for.
9 posted on 02/03/2005 7:27:02 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier then working)
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Social Security's projected insolvency has been a political football for at least a decade or more.

Democrats claim "possession" of the SS scheme. Their solution will be to increase the Soc Sec tax rate and to increase the age of retirement to 75 years of age. Under Democrat party dictation, Soc Sec would become a ubiquitous all-purpose welfare blanket covering all social and health problems for EVERYONE. Thence the ultimate horror - imposed socialism and a tyrannical government.

Soc Sec benefits and "entitlements" have been bankrupted by Congress' siphon. Congress has double-crossed American Workers by manipulating taxation and social security.


14 posted on 02/03/2005 7:35:57 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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There's one reason and one reason only that the dims don't want the SS fund to leave congress' control: It's a source of pork for them, and that is the coup that W will achieve, taking it away from them.


19 posted on 02/03/2005 7:49:54 PM PST by Marauder (... shall NOT be infringed. Now do you get it?)
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New MSM motto "Fake but accurate".


20 posted on 02/03/2005 7:51:37 PM PST by Raycpa
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E.D. on Fox and Friends this morning interviewed John Corizine, and he specifically stated that people will have to "pay back" the treasury, and mentioned this "claw back."

I wanted E.D. to ask him exactly what he meant.

It looks like the dems are back to bald face lying again!

Mark


26 posted on 02/03/2005 8:10:03 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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Hmmm...two problems.

* "If he were to divorce, his account would be marital
property."

Okay, the real family movement (we who believe that fathers should be in families) says, "Seeya, seeya, wouldn't wanna be ya!" We'll go into political hiding and watch the big socialism show after 2008. What's the difference between creeping socialism and immediate socialism? Populations get too accustomed to creeping socialism, as ours has.

* "Personal retirement accounts provide ownership and
control."

That's wrong. I know a man who works for a developer (residential builder) and requested money from his retirement account to purchase vacant land to build his house on. His employer (the builder) said "No way--not unless you are buying from our industry (that is, a house that is already built, mortgage and all).

And as for Social Security, will we see the tax go away? If we see the tax go away, I'm all for it. If it goes for defense, that's alright with me. If we see it go into HHS stuff to appease the anti-family crowd, count me out.

No more incentives for divorce/cohabitation/"hooking up" or children reared by our government (government funded "day care," and all that)!


27 posted on 02/03/2005 8:14:01 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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It might be helpful if we could consolidate the replies on the duplicate thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335456/posts
29 posted on 02/03/2005 8:41:44 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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This is what I'd like to see projected:

What's a conservative estimate of how many younger Americans would opt for the private accounts? And then how much money would Americans be putting into the broad stock market each year, at a 4% payroll rate?

And with that extra vast sum of capital flowing into our nation's publically traded companies, what new business expansion might result? How much new R&D? New products? New factories and production? How will that translate into new jobs? New industries? Increased wealth for average American workers/investors? What will those average workers spend their wealth on? What stuff will they buy? How will the workers of the companies that make that stuff then benefit from increased demand?


30 posted on 02/03/2005 9:02:49 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (America is a great country. 38 million illegal aliens can't be wrong.)
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Can the WaPo do anything right? Threads Unravel in Iraqi's Tale ... they were taken for a ride by Jumana Michael Hanna, the woman that said that she was raped by Uday's prison guards. Turns out she's a sociopathic liar.

It looks like just a little digging on that story revealed its weaknesses -- I can't tell if they were fooled by her or just wanted to put out a story that people wanted to hear.
33 posted on 02/03/2005 9:19:17 PM PST by rhtwngwarrior
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34 posted on 02/03/2005 9:22:59 PM PST by GretchenM
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The Bush plan as now explained is akin to buying stocks on 100% margin, if all the money is invested in stocks. You borrow money at 3% plus inflation, and invest it in stocks. If stocks earn less than 3% over inflation over 30 years or whatever, you eat the difference in reduced benefits. If higher, you feast on the gain. If the gap is more than about 1% to the negative, the loss in your SS pension will be so large, that the government will probably have to put you on welfare in your old age.

If you choose to invest not all in stocks when opting for private accounts, that is almost a guaranteed loser because bonds don't typically earn 3% over inflation. I oppose the President's plan as outlined, absolutely. It is a risky and nonsensical scheme.

36 posted on 02/03/2005 9:42:28 PM PST by Torie
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(Forced) Socialist Security is the crown jewel in The Democratic Crime Syndicate's culture of death.

"Raise the retirement age" should read..."We need more dead people"

These ghouls love performing economic abortions on our elder citizens. They are naturals at it. They have that sixth sense. They see dead people.

Look into the eyes of Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. Listen to them wail and howl in the days ahead as you rest your weary head on your pillow. If you make it to their "Promised Land" collect your pittance, but sleep with one eye open. If you should die before you wake, your money's theirs, the socialists to take.

37 posted on 02/03/2005 9:48:52 PM PST by PGalt
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Morons at the Post.

Well, I am glad that the WH called them on it. We will finally have these folks' feet to the fire and get some accountability for the liberal fantasies they have been trying to pass off as accurate information.
38 posted on 02/03/2005 9:50:11 PM PST by Fido969
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bump for later reading


39 posted on 02/03/2005 10:02:27 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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Corrections and errata are BS. The MSM publishes things they know are false (i.e., lies) and that few if any will ever read the fine print in a later issue.


41 posted on 02/03/2005 11:05:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: kcvl; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
BILL BENNETT

FDR on Social Security Message to Congress on Social Security on Jan. 17, 1935:

"In the important field of security for our old people, it seems necessary to adopt three principles: First, noncontributory old-age pensions for those who are now too old to build up their own insurance. It is, of course, clear that for perhaps 30 years to come funds will have to be provided by the States and the Federal Government to meet these pensions.

Second, compulsory contributory annuities that in time will establish a self-supporting system for those now young and for future generations.

Third, voluntary contributory annuities by which individual initiative can increase the annual amounts received in old age. It is proposed that the Federal Government assume one-half of the cost of the old-age pension plan, which ought ultimately to be supplanted by self-supporting annuity plans."

45 posted on 02/04/2005 4:13:41 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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The Post USUALLY gets it wrong...one way or another.

It's what they do..
it's all they do..
and they won't stop..
EVER!

47 posted on 02/04/2005 4:49:02 AM PST by evad
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