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To: exDemMom

i agree that education in our country needs an upgrade but let me ask a question of all of you that are so certain global warming is "junk science," how you can be so confident?

i bet nobody in this forum has actually studied the scientific literature (at best some of you picked up lomberg's book after learning that it would reinforce the answer you wanted)

scientists aren't perfect but most of you should admit that you have no clue.


12 posted on 04/06/2005 10:06:00 PM PDT by mb007h
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To: mb007h
scientists aren't perfect but most of you should admit that you have no clue.

You contend that "global warming" is a fact? For purpose of argument, let us so stipulate.

What, then, is causing this phenomenon? And why should we be concerned?

13 posted on 04/06/2005 10:17:07 PM PDT by okie01 (A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
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To: mb007h

Let me first point out that I am a scientist, doctorate level. True, my field is biochemistry and molecular biology, and not atmospheric science, but that still leaves me with a good scientific background from which I can judge the issue of "global warming." I don't spend a lot of time reading the "global warming" literature; if the article is not in Science, I probably won't see it (I have so many articles to read pertaining to my own research that I hardly have time to read anything else).

Science is not exact, and consensus is rare. My first published article was a refutation of a big-name scientist's work. We disagree and argue, and people delight in trying to find alternate explanations for every observation. In the "global warming" scare, where are the dissenting voices? They exist, the media just doesn't cover them (the media always goes for the shrill hysterics, not the calm rationality). A petition somewhere on the internet has (last I heard) 60,000 scientists who have signed it, expressing their doubts as to the validity of the global warming hypothesis. Some of them are Nobel prize winners.

Now, about the facts of "global warming." If you look at temperature records going back for hundreds of years, you learn that there have always been periods of warming and cooling. Why, then, is this particular period of warming (if it is, in fact warming) attributed to man-made factors, when the claim is not made for past periods of warming? Furthermore, the carbon dioxide levels always increase AFTER the warming, lagging by decades, a century, or more. IF CO2 is, in fact, a cause of global warming, wouldn't those CO2 increases following the temp. rises in the past have resulted in upwards temperature spirals, like adding fuel to a fire? Lastly, our methods of measuring temperature have changed. The apparent average global temperature is different depending on how the measurement is taken. Yes, there are charts that show all of a half a degree of increase in the last century. But it's debatable whether it is real (due to differences in the way temperatures were measured) and, if it is, what it means.

Science reporting in the MSM is abysmally inaccurate on just about every subject they report. Why should the MSM be any different where global climate is concerned?


14 posted on 04/07/2005 4:40:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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