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Muslim asks FBI to explain remark on jihadists
http://www.OregonLive.com ^ | Tuesday, February 01, 2005 | NOELLE CROMBIE

Posted on 02/02/2005 4:27:13 PM PST by joyce11111

Muslim asks FBI to explain remark on jihadists

The leader of Bilal Mosque group says comments by the agent in charge in Oregon have set back fence-mending

Tuesday, February 01, 2005 NOELLE CROMBIE A prominent Portland-area Muslim leader has asked the top FBI agent in Oregon to explain his recent remarks about the presence of jihad-trained fighters in the state.

In an e-mail Monday to Robert Jordan, special agent in charge of the FBI in Oregon, Shahriar Ahmed, president of the Bilal Mosque Association in Beaverton, wrote he was "shocked" to hear Jordan say there are people in Oregon who have trained in terrorist camps in Afghanistan.

In his remarks, Jordan said: "We have people here in Oregon that have trained in jihadist camps in bad areas. In the bad neighborhoods of the world." He added that the FBI knows "they've trained overseas, taken oaths to kill Americans and engage in jihad," but the challenge is "to prove those things."

Jordan, through his spokeswoman, has refused to explain his remarks. Beth Anne Steele, the FBI spokeswoman in Oregon, said Monday that Jordan planned to respond to Ahmed's letter privately.

Jordan's remarks come as the Portland City Council is considering whether to continue its commitment to the joint terrorism task force with the FBI. The issue has not been scheduled for a council vote.

Ahmed said Jordan's comments have dealt a setback to efforts to mend ties between federal law enforcement officials and local Muslims, an already fragile relationship damaged by the botched Brandon Mayfield case last year.

Mayfield, an attorney and Muslim, was detained as a material witness for two weeks in connection with the deadly train bombing in Madrid, Spain. Federal officials had linked him to the terror attack through a fingerprint, which they later said they had misidentified. Mayfield is suing the federal government over his detention.

Ahmed, who has been a vocal supporter of Jordan and his efforts to repair relations with Muslims, said the agent's comments were "so out of character."

"He has been very cautious in what he has said," Ahmed said.

Ahmed said the remark damaged the image of Muslims. In his e-mail to Jordan, Ahmed writes that he thought Muslims had "communicated to you the affect such comments have, especially from law enforcement, in making our lives, those of our wives who wear the head scarf, the lives of our children, especially our daughters who wear the head scarf in school, extremely difficult."

In an interview Monday, Ahmed questioned how people should respond to Jordan's statements.

"What is he expecting from us? What is he expecting from our neighbors? What are we supposed to do?"

Ahmed, who also sent the letter to local religious leaders, said he wants to hold a public meeting with Jordan.

Kareem Shora, director of legal policy for the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, based in Washington, D.C., called Jordan's remarks irresponsible.

"If the average individual hears that coming from someone in authority at the FBI, you don't know how that plays out in real life on the streets," Shora said. "Are people going to start suspecting the average Arab American citizen on the street?"

Noelle Crombie: 503-2767184; noellecrombie@news.oregonian.com

Copyright 2005 Oregon Live. All Rights Reserved.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: fbi; jihadinamerica; muslimamericans
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To: joyce11111
Muslim asks FBI to explain remark on jihadists

"Screw you," he explained.

21 posted on 02/02/2005 4:49:54 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: joyce11111
A prominent Portland-area Muslim leader has asked the top FBI agent in Oregon to explain his recent remarks about the presence of jihad-trained fighters in the state.

EXPLANATION - There are jihadist fighters living in Oregon.

Well, that was easy!

23 posted on 02/02/2005 4:52:34 PM PST by Carling (FReemail me if you want articles that interest, well...me!)
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To: joyce11111
"Are people going to start suspecting the average Arab American citizen on the street?"

Where has this "person" been? The 14th century or something? Answering his question from the average non muslime on the street...YES.
24 posted on 02/02/2005 4:53:54 PM PST by Dallas59 (Bush said the "F" word 27 times January 20th, 2005!)
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Shahriar Ahmed we are on to you. Remember that.


25 posted on 02/02/2005 4:55:59 PM PST by VastRWCon
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To: joyce11111
" "Are people going to start suspecting the average Arab American citizen on the street?""

I know a number of Americans of Arab descent and immigrant Arabs. Everyone of them is a devout Orthodox, Melkite, Maronite or Coptic Christian. They all wear their crosses openly in their businesses, just so there's no mistake. A number of them, all of them actually now that I think of it, have had icons up in their businesses since long before 9/11. One of the guys told me that people used to come in, see the icons and have something of a quizzical, maybe even hostile look on their faces when they saw them. Since 9/11 the icons always elicit a broad smile. It is important to remember that the majority of Arabs in America are Christians and are here precisely for the same reasons we are fighting the Islamofascists.
26 posted on 02/02/2005 4:57:08 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: joyce11111

What's to explain? Can't they understand English?


27 posted on 02/02/2005 4:59:05 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: joyce11111

Dear Achmed:

(insert suitable verb)_______________ you if you can't take a joke !


28 posted on 02/02/2005 5:06:45 PM PST by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: joyce11111
"The leader of Bilal Mosque group says comments by the agent in charge in Oregon have set back fence-mending"

Who Was That Masked "DemocRat" Fence Mending w/ Terrorist?
29 posted on 02/02/2005 5:24:00 PM PST by F105-D ThunderChief (That "THUD" you heard was the Collapse of the DemocRats!)
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To: genefromjersey
If I was the FBI I would have told the guy that we use that term in order to bring out the real jihadists knowing they would be the ones to demand we apologize
30 posted on 02/02/2005 5:26:41 PM PST by mammer
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To: Graybeard58

Great post Grey beard


31 posted on 02/02/2005 5:28:23 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: Spok

****In an e-mail Monday to Robert Jordan, special agent in charge of the FBI in Oregon, Shahriar Ahmed, president of the Bilal Mosque Association in Beaverton, wrote he was "shocked" to hear Jordan say there are people in Oregon who have trained in terrorist camps in Afghanistan.




And that is a *&%%$( lie.


32 posted on 02/02/2005 5:32:46 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: joyce11111
Jordan, through his spokeswoman, has refused to explain his remarks. Beth Anne Steele, the FBI spokeswoman in Oregon, said Monday that Jordan planned to respond to Ahmed's letter privately.

WTF? Who the hell is Ahmed that the FBI is scrambling to "mend fences"???

33 posted on 02/02/2005 5:35:27 PM PST by montag813
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To: Paloma_55

Arab American is an oxymoron. You're either an Arab or an American....can't be both.


34 posted on 02/02/2005 6:43:38 PM PST by indcons (The first rule of gun safety - Don't Piss Me Off!!)
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To: joyce11111
making our lives, those of our wives who wear the head scarf, the lives of our children, especially our daughters who wear the head scarf in school, extremely difficult

Hey, Mr. Effen Deed Muslim, how about your brethren in New Jersey who were making the lives, those of the Coptics, especially the lives of the Coptic teenager who has the cross on her arm, extremely difficult, which is to say, ended.

36 posted on 02/02/2005 6:47:55 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: joyce11111

Death to terrorists.


37 posted on 02/02/2005 7:17:43 PM PST by sarah_f (Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: garyhope

Muslims should assimilate to American values or beliefs or return to their "heaven". What are any Muslims doing here in the first place.

Are any communities out there experiencing what we are, and have been, seeing in our community for the past five years? Namely, Middle Eastern immigrants buying houses and tearing them down and then building these monstrosities that apparently replicate their houses in Iran? Neighborhoods are starting to get up in arms about these great big ugly boxes that are transporting the look of Tehran to the U.S. Maybe this is just something that is happening in our area, but am curious about whether anyone else is noticing this? There is certainly no effort to 'assimilate' around here.


39 posted on 02/02/2005 8:28:42 PM PST by hardworking (-O-U)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

"What are any Muslims doing here in the first place."

They immigrated here because years of Islamic society in their homelands have created hell holes full of misery.

And some are doing the best they can to turn this country into what they left, by not conforming to American Life! If you can't conform, get out, otherwise act like Americans.


40 posted on 02/02/2005 8:44:31 PM PST by Ethyl
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