Posted on 02/01/2005 10:19:03 PM PST by Roberts
Skeptics of President Bush's attempt to bring democracy to Iraq have been largely silent since Iraqis enthusiastically turned out for Sunday's elections. Billionaire Bush-basher George Soros and left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore were among critics of the administration's Iraq policy who had no comment after millions of Iraqis went to the polls in their nation's first free elections in decades. The Carter Center determined that the security situation in Iraq was going to be too dangerous to send election monitors, so the Atlanta-based human rights organization founded by former President Jimmy Carter posted its personnel in neighboring Jordan.
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Ramsey Clark contributed to this critique of the Klintons' and George Soros' nice little war in Yugoslavia. Among the other contributors are Slobodan Milosevic and the cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal. It really makes me laugh when such scumballs complain that we don't have free speech in the US. :')Americans Fly to Iraq as Part of Relief Effort, Call For an End to SanctionsAnother group of 50 American activists was expected to reach Baghdad on Saturday night, headed by former Attorney General Ramsey Clark... Most of the flights manage to skirt the sanctions issue by including humanitarian aid, which is permitted. The Americans and others have portrayed their flights as a challenge to the sanctions, but U.N. officials have not taken that view. At the United Nations, a U.S. official said Friday that the United States allowed the flight to be approved, though it was viewed as a "propaganda tool for Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. It's well documented that there is plenty of food and medicine to go around in Iraq. But Hussein chooses not to distribute it," said Mary Ellen Glynn, spokeswoman at the U.S. mission. "He is happy to send food and aid to the Palestinian people when it serves his purposes but he doesn't distribute it to his own people." The sanctions have never blocked humanitarian aid, and the U.N.'s oil-for-food program allows Iraq to import basic goods. However, Iraq blames the sanctions for more than 1 million deaths over the past decade.
by Greg Myre
Fox News
Saturday, January 13, 2001Ramsey Clark to Protesters: 'Let's Impeach Bush'[Former U.S. Attorney General under President Johnson, Ramsey] Clark told a crowd of cheering anti-American demonstrators gathered in Washington, D.C., ...that Bush has already "waged war, first strike and pre-emption, on his own, without the consent of the Congress or the United Nations." In fact, Bush has won resolutions of support for his Iraqi policy from both bodies. Next the former AG asked the crowd, "Has [Bush] threatened to use nuclear weapons?" "Yes," came the response, despite the fact that that charge was also erroneous. "Has he authorized and condoned assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings and secret holding of people in unlawful detention?" Clark wondered aloud, before adding bizarrely, "And bribery!"
NewsMax
Saturday, Jan. 18, 2003
Hidden Agenda:
U.S./NATO Takeover of Yugoslavia
ed by John Catalinotto
and Sara Flounders
There has been no comment since the Iraq elections from Mr. Moore, the Academy Award-winning filmmaker who characterized the Iraqi insurgents as "Minutemen," and predicted "they will win."
It seems that Moore only admires the Iraqi people when they validate his agenda of hating George Bush. Now that they have embraced this ideal of democracy, he seems to have lost respect for them by failing to acknowledge their achievement. I think hes taken this whole the enemy of my enemy is my friend concept a little over the edge.
I agree. And it means that Turkey will never invade. The U.S. will have at least 3 bases in free Iraq 5 to 10 years from now. It will as routine for the U.S. have bases in Iraq as it is for them to have bases in Germany, Japan and the Philippines now. And, just to be clear, I consider that a good thing.
I agree: that was why I said "later if not sooner". The Turks have to worry about how it would affect their aspirations to EU membership as well. However, if they come to believe the 'Kirkuk situation' has become 'their Cuba 1962' timebomb, they might well respond rashly, as they did in their decision to renege on their commitments to the U.S. in Iraq in 2003.
I guess my trust in the results of polls done in Iraq is less than your own. Even if the polls are roughly reliable, the fact that Kurds, Baathist Sunnis et al. approach 40% of the total population might well boost the 'secular state' option well beyond anything the Shia have in mind. Additionally, the 'Sistani people' likely know his highness's ultimate aim is a theocratic state, with close ties to Iran -- with the self-interest caveat that this cannot be said at this time. The 'bottom line' for me is that I think the Shia in Iran and Iraq are indissolubly bonded and this will manifest itself -- later if not sooner.
Ramsey Clark was AG for LBJ, not Carter.
Carter's A'sG were as follows:
Jan. 26, 1977-Jul. 19, 1979--- Griffin B. Bell
Aug. 16, 1979-Jan. 20, 1981--- Benjamin R. Civiletti
Thanks, I am thinking that I am not the only one that had mistakenly had him
serving under Carter.
Take a close look and there is something downright suspicious about former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, now the darling of certain sectors of the radical left. His journey has taken him from the heights of federal power to outer orbits of the political fringe. In the process, he has seemingly transformed from a shill for the most corrupt elements of the US elites to a shill for any foreign despot who claims to oppose the US elites. Who is Ramsey Clark really working for?
AG Clark was repeatedly mired in corruption scandals. In 1945, he was accused of taking a bribe to fix a war profiteering case. In 1947, after he had four convicted Chicago mob bosses sprung from prison before their terms were complete, Congress appointed a committee to investigate--and was effectively roadblocked by Tom's refusal to hand over parole records.
Truman admitted to a biographer that "Tom Clark was my biggest mistake." But he insisted: "It isn't so much that he's a bad man. It's just that he's such a dumb son of a bitch."
AG Tom Clark played along with the post-war anti-communist hysteria, approving federal wiretaps on Alger Hiss, the State Department official accused being a Soviet mole. In 1949, he moved over to the Supreme Court. Carlos Marcello biographer John Davis asserts that the kingpin continued to funnel money to Clark when he sat on the high court.
Tom stepped down from the high court when young Ramsey was appointed attorney general by President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1967. Ramsey was likely appointed precisely because he was Tom's son. And not because LBJ was impressed with Tom, but just the opposite: Johnson knew that Ramsey's appointment would maneuver Tom into stepping down. This cleared the way for the appointment of Thurgood Marshall, a comparative moral and intellectual titan who was strategic to the White House's effort to buy peace with the civil rights movement.
AG Ramsey got into a famous showdown with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover when he attempted to block the Director's wiretaps of Martin Luther King Jr.--apparently the first stirrings of Ramsey's conscience. Hoover, considering Clark a spineless "jellyfish," went over his head and ordered the wiretaps without the AG's approval. However, Clark later told Curt Gentry, author of a critical biography of Hoover, that the FBI director had "very strong human qualities" and "was not at all evil by any means. He really believed deeply in integrity, as he defined it, as he saw it."
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See site for the rest of the story........
See #29 and related link on Ramsey Clark!
That would make a good name for a band. Or a blog, for that matter.
Yeah, and with good reason. Every time a terrorist or Communist needs to be apologized for, or coddled, you find Jimmy Carter and Ramsey Clark jostling to go first to blame America.
Thanks.
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