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Tuition law for illegal immigrants challenged
AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN ^ | february 1, 2005 | Juan Castillo

Posted on 02/01/2005 4:27:27 PM PST by ken21

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To: dennisw
"These idiots think they are being compassionate by giving a tuition break and a spot at a college to an illegal. "

No, we're being smart. An educated population is an asset. We're willing to spend our own tax dollars to educate our residents so that they will be more productive and contribute more to our state.

Why the hell should we have to subsidize some Michigan-American who is going back to Michigan and vote for Congressmen who raise our taxes. If Michican-Americans want their kids to get a college education they should tax themselves more and build more colleges.

HEY, ALL YOU NON-TEXANS: If you don't like the way we Texans run our universities, don't send your rotten kids here to go to them.

41 posted on 02/01/2005 11:42:43 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod
Why the hell should we have to subsidize some Michigan-American who is going back to Michigan and vote for Congressmen who raise our taxes. If Michican-Americans want their kids to get a college education they should tax themselves more and build more colleges.

You are vying for the looniest poster award, right Rodney?

42 posted on 02/01/2005 11:46:49 PM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: bayourod
I lived in Texas all my life, a legal U.S. citizen from birth, left Texas for a couple of years, returned to Texas, and was no longer a Texas "resident."

So now I'm paying three times the $$$ for tuition at college in Texas than any illegal Mexican pays in Texas. I noticed this fact while sorting through the convoluted residency-for-tuition-purposes laws. It blows. But I suppose politicians who have reached the highpoint of their careers, having already completed their educations, now just want to be "loved" by another voting block, don't give a rat's ass about American CITIZENS who are trying to move up.

I say, if you are going to give such a huge break to an *illegal* immigrant, why not me?

Why? Our Texas colleges and universities are for TEXANS, not yankees and Californians. Not all Americans are TEXANS and not all TEXANS are Americans. When someone: Lives TEXAN Works TEXAN Talks TEXAN Walks TEXAN Thinks TEXAN Worships TEXAN Looks TEXAN Eats TEXAn Plays TEXAN Pays TEXAN taxes Supports TEXAN professional sports teams and loves TEXAS, They are TEXANS, and deserve the same rights and privileges as all TEXANS. Who cares if they're not Americans. Texas taxpayers don't get to say who's an American and who isn't. And a bunch of jealous yankees shouldn't prevent us from saying who's a TEXAN and who ain't.

43 posted on 02/02/2005 12:09:41 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: JoanneSD
but alas not if you are an illegal

Maybe I'm misinterpreting you, but you make it sound as if there's nothing you can do about it, that it's a fait accompli.

Hint: you don't have to vote for the people who treat you with a different legal standard than illegal aliens.

That includes people who are ostensibly "conservatives", and say things like "well, who ya gonna vote for if not me?".

44 posted on 02/02/2005 2:43:03 AM PST by Regulator
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To: LauraleeBraswell

He's the one pushing this latest wave of illegal acceptance. He's pushing it hard, and we have been sitting around for a couple of years now trying to figure out why. It's political suicide.


45 posted on 02/02/2005 2:48:41 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: ken21
Tuition law for illegal immigrants challenged Lawsuit filed in says Kansas law, similar to Texas', violates federal statute

It doesn't just violate federal law. It violates the liberal's most sacred amendment -- the 14th.

46 posted on 02/02/2005 2:49:21 AM PST by Regulator
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To: bayourod

dude.... you're just totally incoherent. It's becoming entertaining.


47 posted on 02/02/2005 2:51:00 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: cherry
mexico's elite are european and mostly white-skinned. at the top are a couple dozen billionaires.

corporations and companies are owned by europeans. here's one example, a spanish-mexican marrying the u.s. ambassador to mexico:

U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza is engaged to marry Maria Asuncion Aramburuzabala -- Mexico's richest woman -- an embassy official said Sunday. Garza, a second-generation American whose four grandparents were from Mexico, was appointed ambassador in 2002 by U.S. President George W. Bush. Aramburuzabala is vice chairwoman of Grupo Modelo, the maker of Corona and Negra Modelo beers. Aramburuzabala's grandfather, a Spanish immigrant, founded the brewery.

another billionaire is carlos slim, but unlike most of the european mexican billionaires, he's from a lebanese background, but still white:

Slim, listed by Forbes magazine in 2002 as the world's 17th richest man with a fortune estimated at $11.5 billion, controls companies that comprise almost half the market value of Mexico City's stock exchange. Those holdings include Telefonos de Mexico SA, Mexico's largest telephone company, and America Movil SA, Latin America's biggest cellular telephone company. He also sits the board of Altria Group Inc., the holding company for tobacco maker Philip Morris USA, and SBC Communications Inc., the second-largest U.S. local-telephone company.

mexican professionals are mostly white. overly dark-skinned people are shunned.

then there's mexico's manorial class. multiple homes, maids, properties, investments.

then there's the lower middle class of shop owners, small businesses. but they have a hard time of it due to the countries' napoleonic law. bribes are frequent. i saw a small home owner lose her property because some crooked rich guy bribed the courts.

next are the majority of mexico's population--the mixed bloods, of european and indian descent, and of varying skin colors. these are the ones we see in the united states, generally brown-skinned. occasionally there is a red head and white skinned guy.

these people have no opportunities in mexico. the racist elites hate them and deny them the civil life and upward mobility that we take for granted in the u.s. usually they go to only the public 6th grade; education beyond that requires money for private education. finally, there are the indians, especially those of southern mexico, like chiapas. they are the bottom of the bottom. the mexican plantation owners do what they want. you'll remember ten years ago revolutionary groups there and the mexican army protecting the rich.

48 posted on 02/02/2005 7:47:57 AM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: ken21

Liberals want to keep the illegals here and provide college educations for them - thus depriving Mexico of some of its most motivated citizens. Think of what the illegals could do if they returned home, became legal again, and began to improve their home countries.


49 posted on 02/02/2005 7:55:56 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

i agree, but they don't do that.

i've written many times on this forum about mexicans that i know who went back to mexico, but they are a tiny minority.

they all want to stay here because they're discriminated against in mexico.

i thought 20 years ago that masses of them would return, set up businesses, demand equality, and change mexico.

it hasn't happened.


50 posted on 02/02/2005 7:58:44 AM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: ken21
finally, there are the indians, especially those of southern mexico, like chiapas. they are the bottom of the bottom

Yes, Mexicans are very racist. Not only toward those lower in the pecking order (or above) but also other countries. No love lost toward the Puerto Ricans or the Central Americans.

One evening, my wife was in the grocery store when one of these Chiapas came in to ask directions. Quite a rarity around here, he spoke no English and looked very out of place.

My wife speaks fluent Spanish and answered his question (he was looking for a church - underground railroad type probably) and even gave him a short lift down the road. He explained who he was and why he was here during this ride. The racism toward his people came up (part of the reason why he was here) and the reason why he was seeking this church.

My wife had no idea he was illegal until she gave him a ride. As it was, she felt very conflicted afterward but still believed that he should not be here.

52 posted on 05/04/2005 3:57:28 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: VeniVidiVici


How the hell is this thread still going on. Some crazy person posted to me.


53 posted on 05/04/2005 3:59:54 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

LOL!

Thought the topic looked familiar.


54 posted on 05/04/2005 4:01:22 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

you must be doing house cleaning, and came across this months-old article!


55 posted on 05/04/2005 4:02:30 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: imbettyb


Maybe next time they should fill out the necessary paperwork. Have you thought about how CA is bankrupt? It's not my fault they have fake SS numbers. They are draining the system.

"" Is it illegal to come into our country to do jobs that we upright Americans(by the luck of our birthplace)refuse to do? It is currently illegal but should it be? ""

If you come here illegally, then yes.

No one cleans my dishes, picks up after me and my house and I'm sorry I don't farm.


Fill out the paper work- and you are welcome here. If not Go home.


56 posted on 05/04/2005 4:04:31 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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