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And I bet if they would ask most college-educated Americans whether or not we, the USA, are a democracy, 99% of them would be wrong by saying YES.

I dare anyone to find any president before 1900 using that word (democracy) in any offical writings or speeches as a reference to the type of govt. of our great country. I bet they won't find any.

1 posted on 02/01/2005 2:39:43 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Those public school teachers who incessantly whine about the great job they're doing with no pay and boohoohoo really should stand up and take a bow! Dumping US history classes for condom-fitting on pickles sure has improved the quality of our citizenry!


2 posted on 02/01/2005 2:41:22 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Let's not overhype Kerry's complete lack of a clue)
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To: Coleus

I like the shorter title better-

Survey Finds Students Ignorant


4 posted on 02/01/2005 2:44:48 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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"Survey Finds Students Ignorant Of Basic First Amendment Rights"

What a glorious day for "Swimmer Ted", his public school goals are being achieved!

5 posted on 02/01/2005 2:45:19 PM PST by patriot_wes (When I see two guys kissin..argh! Is puking a hate crime yet?)
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"Ignorance about the basics of this free society is a danger to our nation's future," Carter exclaimed in a synopsis of the survey.


When I was 18 back in 1972, I didn't know the "basics of a free society" either. These are kids for goodness sake. Now if someone did a similar study of persons at 30 and they still did so poorly, then I would start getting worried.


6 posted on 02/01/2005 2:48:35 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Coleus

I disagree with the title. It is not that the students are "ignorant" of the 1st amendment protections, its that they do not SUPPORT them.


8 posted on 02/01/2005 2:52:01 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Coleus

We are a form of democracy, but not a pure democracy. Pure democracies don't work.


9 posted on 02/01/2005 2:53:42 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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Some years ago, I did a little research: I examined over thirty grade-school and high-school level American history and "government- civics" type textbooks used throughout the Nation.

Of the ones I looked at, ~30% of them did not even mention the Bill of Rights in passing, much less discuss it.~ 45% of them mentioned the Bill of Rights but did not deliniate or explain it at all, although some of them had an image of one of the original documents (which was too small to actually be read)..

Only two of them actually reproduced the complete and exact text of the Bill of Rights. One of them, the oldest I found, published in the early 1960s, got it right, and explained them in a manner most of us would approve.

The other, the newest that I examined, published in the late 1990s also reproduced the Bill of Rights text, then went on to explain what it meant...... from, of course, a very leftist, revisionist historical perspective. For instance, according to the authors, the First Ammendment guaranteed freedom of speech and insured "freedom FROM religion", and that the Second Ammendment was an outdated concept that should be gotten rid of because it was the primary cause of all the violence in the USA.

What's in YOUR children's American history and Government text books?


11 posted on 02/01/2005 3:15:23 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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Survey Finds Students Ignorant Of Basic First Amendment Rights

?.................what is a 'student'?

13 posted on 02/01/2005 3:28:05 PM PST by maestro
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To: Coleus; shubi

I have heard many people make hay out of this "we are not a democracy we are a representative republic" line. One guy even snapped at Rush about this and Rush said something to the effect "Don't you think I know we're not a democracy?"

Fact is we ARE a democracy. We also are a republic. Democracy simply means that there are no blood lines involved in political appointments, and that people vote on laws directly or through sending representatives to vote for them.

The 1998 edition of the Random House Websters dictionary even gives the US an an example of a democracy.


15 posted on 02/01/2005 3:43:53 PM PST by mwilli20 (We should change the word for "teddy bear")
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Taking your dare on finding any President prior to 1900, mentioning the word "Democracy" in any speech or writing.
It may take a while for the proof, but others may assist.
I recall Jackson instituted greater "Democracy"in elections around 1832. He wrote it and he spoke it, now all I have to do is find it. "I'll be back."


22 posted on 02/01/2005 11:09:17 PM PST by Walkenfree (Bad can get worse & good can get better.)
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To: Coleus

How about 2nd amendment rights?!


24 posted on 02/02/2005 8:06:44 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href ="http://www.michaelmoore.com/"title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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