[HamiltonJay]

Trust me, break down their stats and I GUARANTEE You will find the bulk of "msn.com"'s traffic is simply from folks who use hot mail... many who don't use any other part of MSN and I bet you dollar to doughnuts many of them had their hotmail accounts before MS even bought the company.

MS on the internet has been a dud, the only "successes" they have are the ones they acquired. Just like MSNBC is a joke on Cable.. MSN on the internet is equally a joke.

[KwasiOwusu]

"Trust me, break down their stats and I GUARANTEE You will find the bulk of "msn.com"'s traffic is simply from folks who use hot mail"

# 1 , I never trust Microsoft haters with agendas.
And # 2, the figures are there at comScore for everyone to see.
If you have any proof for your statement I'd like to see it.

And # 3, as I already pointed out,Hotmail is part of msn.
So you lose either way.