To: quadrant
England is still around, so is France, and so are Japan and China. So is Spain.
IAE, France has long been charged with anti-Semitism, and England expelled its Jews shortly before the rise of its empire. So what does that prove?
To: Commie Basher
So is Germany and Egypt, but neither has nor is likely to ascend to the power its once enjoyed.
The Jews were expelled from England during the Middle Ages but were readmitted during the "reign" of Oliver Cromwell.
Technically speaking, England was not an Empire until Queen Victoria became Empress of India and ceased to be an empire when India became an independent country.
There is a long and shameful history of anti-Semitism in France - during the 1930's "Better Adolph Hitler than Leon Blum" was a public sentiment - however anti-semitism was not widespread or virulent in France until the Dreyfus Affair.
None of these examples "prove" anything, since historical proof is a difficult and often illusionary undertaking.
My remarks were simply an observation that widespread and severe persecution of the Jews and a decline of national power are events that can be observed in ancient Egypt, Tsarist Russia, Imperial Spain, and Nazi Germany. .
My remarks were not intended to "prove" that anti-semitism caused the decline of these countries since anti-semitism, especially social anti-semitism, is not necessarily persecution.
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02/02/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by
quadrant
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