[robertpaulsen]

You chose to call it a "sales" tax, not me. You chose to use the figure of 23%, not me.

You tell the American people that this is a "23% sales tax" and what are they supposed to think?

Now you come along with this condescending, "Oh, that 23% is really a tax conclusive, amortized debenture income tax comparison" bull$hit.

Who's playing "gotcha" games here? If you cannot be straight with the American people with something as simple as the goddamn rate, what else are you hiding?.

The NRST may indeed be the best thing since sliced bread. But we'll never know, because I and many Americans simply don't trust you and will never vote for it.

[Your Nightmare]

The NRST may indeed be the best thing since sliced bread. But we'll never know, because I and many Americans simply don't trust you and will never vote for it.

Bing! If they could just be straight we could discuss the merits but too often we are correcting "misleading" statements and pie-in-the-sky projections presented as fact.

Reason is not an option with these guys.

[socialismisinsidious]

"The NRST may indeed be the best thing since sliced bread. But we'll never know, because I and many Americans simply don't trust you and will never vote for it." For crying out loud! Find out for yourself---no one should be voting for or against anything based on how much they trust someone else.

You all have been making a big deal out of the inclusive/exclusive rate.....have you bothered to figure out how much you pay in taxes now? Have you bothered to add up your income tax, the embedded taxes you pay, the salary hit you have b/c your employer pays half of your SS tax and a bunch of payroll taxes for each person that they have working for them? Do you know what you pay, what this country pays, in compliance cost each year? Do you understand the 20,000 page tax code that we now have? What is the cost to this country and to you to have Washington full of lobbyists and special interests groups? Have you bothered to read HR25/S25?