... "Gross payment" is clearly defined as payments including "taxable propery or service"
Yep it's clearly defined, now if you'd learn to read the words that are actally printed instead of words you think or wish you saw.
`(5) GROSS PAYMENTS- The term `gross payments' means payments for taxable property or services, including Federal taxes imposed by this title.----
`(1) FOR 2005- In the calendar year 2005, the rate of tax is 23 percent of the gross payments for the taxable property or service.
It's not 23% "including" the taxable property or service .... It's "23 percent of the gross payments for the taxable property or service.
If you don't know how to read legislation, it's not up to me to teach you.
Thank goodness I don't depend on you for ANY information.
Lewislynn's game is logical sleight of hand, to confuse people. He's not here to constructively add to the debate, he's here to disrupt and see who's skin he can get under by trying to be so quick with logical distortions that his opponents, and others reading will get confused and not be able to follow.
Firstly his argument was that because the bill used the language "gross payments", that State sales tax would be taxed by the FairTax, which claims to avoid double and cascading taxation... "AHA! the FairTaxers are lying!"
Then when he is reproved and it is pointed out that teh bill specifically defines "gross payment" as "payments for taxable property or services, including Federal taxes imposed by this title" and that state taxes are neither taxable property or taxable services, he makes the assertion that Federal Taxes are included in the definition, and are not a taxable property or service. "AHA! the FairTaxers are lying!"
However the phrase "including Federal taxes imposed by this title" refers to Gross Payment, not "payments for taxable property or services". By his interpretation, the tax is immediatly and infinately self compounding. Even if he wants to argue that you could interpret it as such, the law expressly forbids that any court or agency shall interpret the law as to have cascading taxes."
An invoice shall be:
1 - Taxable products and services
2 - Sales Taxes on taxable products and/or services
3 - Federal Taxes on taxable products and services
4 - Total invoice of the above three
However, acording to the bill, the definition of GROSS PAYMENT includes 1 and 3, and 23% of that shall be the FairTAx levied.
What lewislynn does is the equivelent to my freind who was listening to the news the otherday, and when one of Bush's press agents stated, "The PResident is preparing a draft and we will make that available as soon as possible", he replied "AHA! Liar! Bush said there wouldn't be a draft!"