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To: CSM
"Doesn't that just prove that the cost of government is higher than society will accept?"

It proves that the NRST will not work since it has no safeguards. Without safeguards, the rate will rise to compensate.

Payroll tax withholding is a good example of such a safeguard. Ask yourself if the federal government would collect the same amount if people payed their taxes like they do their mortgage.

1,163 posted on 02/02/2005 10:21:56 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

"It proves that the NRST will not work since it has no safeguards. Without safeguards, the rate will rise to compensate."

What do you mean when you use the word "work"? In my opinion it would work just fine at forcing government reduction in spending and it would work just fine in educating people as to the cost of government and it would work just fine at proving that when everyone has to carry the burden, then demands are made to lighten the burden.

"Payroll tax withholding is a good example of such a safeguard. Ask yourself if the federal government would collect the same amount if people payed their taxes like they do their mortgage."

Just a few posts ago you supported a reduction in taxes, now you're arguing against NRST on the basis of the government not being able to collect the same amount. Which side of this are you on?


1,165 posted on 02/02/2005 10:34:19 AM PST by CSM ("I just started shooting," said Gloria Doster, 56. "I was trying to blow his brains out ....")
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To: robertpaulsen; CSM

"...It proves that the NRST will not work since it has no safeguards. Without safeguards, the rate will rise to compensate...."

From Federalist Paper No. 21, http://federalistpatriot.us/fedpapers/fed_21.html

"...It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption, that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, ``in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four.''

If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them."

Founding Fathers were prescient and brilliant men.


1,168 posted on 02/02/2005 10:36:53 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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