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To: Your Nightmare

$20 tax charged on a $100 item sold at retail, just like a 20% NRST.

Only in in your simplistic rendition divorced from reality, you assume no implementation nor overhead costs associated with the VAT which adds substantially to the burden over the costs of implemeting a single stage tax such as the NRST. If you assume total price remains constant in your calculation then you must also assume that wages, return on capital must fall in a VAT relative to an NRST and consequent lower revenues to government for loss of demand out of a decline in individual purchasing power.

OTOH, if you assume that the price of the product rises to compensate for the increased cost under the VAT, then you must compensate for reduction in demand for the product.

This is especially true where government's proclivity to monkey in the internals of a VAT to achieve social parity and other "good" things are taken into account which gives rise to all the problems that have been experienced in the VAT implementations of the EU, Australia and Canada.

Australia is especially an interesting study as their GST was a "revenue neutral" replacement of a single stage sales tax with a VAT, the consequences are readily apparent in their problems with rising underground cash economy

Australia - Cash economy continues to grow

and inflation

AusStats Inflation

as well as burdening the economy with such a higher tax burden that the Australian government tends to actually try to hide it's VAT impositions from the view of its electorate by taking it out of general revenue reports to understate revenue burden with respect to their GDP.

Taxpayers Australia - 2004-05 Budget overview

To encourage the Aussie government's growth and social spending. Seems more revenues to government tends to just increase a governments tendancy to grow even faster rather than look to reduce it burden on the nation's economy and the people.

Money machine indeed which historically ends in a moribund economy riddle with inflation and ultimately declining government revenues as the VAT's effects wind to its progressions the political shennanigans it fosters:

  • How a Value Added Tax Would Harm the U.S. Economy
  • Sweden’s Welfare State A Paradise Lost
  • Why do Europeans Work so Little?

  • 1,162 posted on 02/02/2005 10:11:28 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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    To: ancient_geezer
    Only in in your simplistic rendition divorced from reality, you assume no implementation nor overhead costs associated with the VAT which adds substantially to the burden over the costs of implemeting a single stage tax such as the NRST.
    You say it would add substantially, I don't agree. It would add some, but not substantially.If you are worried about it, pay the businesses 0.5% of what they remit for their compliance costs. That's what the FairTax would pay for collection and would more than cover any compliance costs.

    Either way, any excess compliance costs would more than be made up for by greater compliance allowing for a lower rate than a NRST. The consumer would pay the same or less with a VAT than a NRST. So I can redo my simple (not simplistic) rendition to account for the higher compliance costs of a VAT and the higher rate required for a NRST. Or we could keep it ceteris paribus.
    1,164 posted on 02/02/2005 10:30:48 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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