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To: Old Landmarks
What was your purpose in pasting a few contextually dependent verses into a post?

Deuteronomy 23:1 is obviously not context dependent. The context of the others does not affect their meaning. But hey, if you think it does, more power to you.

Why do you consider those verses particularly important (motivating your post) and do you know their historical and theological context?

God tells me all his verses are important and eternally true. Historical context doesn't change their truth.

As for their theological context, the bible itself is their theological context. I don't trust the "theological interpretations" of man.

Prove me wrong.

20 posted on 01/31/2005 1:02:07 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: mc6809e
I am not sure you answered my questions.

Prove you wrong? Wrong about what? I can only guess what you are trying to say, please tell me more.

Do you mean prove you wrong in your apparent statement that the context of a verse does not matter as long as it is in the Bible? (and that is context enough)?

Are you saying that the context of a verse does not matter?

I agree that the Bible is truth, but if you do not allow the Bible to interpret itself by the context the Bible itself gives you, you may be missing the truth.

21 posted on 01/31/2005 2:03:23 AM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man.)
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To: mc6809e; Old Landmarks
Let me jump in here

I think mc's point is that once you start litterally interpreting every single verse in the Bible, you've then got to swallow every one of them.

Genesis cannot be litteral, because it conflicts with itself in the two different creation stories of Gen 1:1 vs Gen 2:4.

Gen 2:4 is a bit more subtle and has been wrongly interpreted as being a summary of the creation in Gen 1:1. But the story beginning at Gen 2:4 contains sequences ("B" had not happened because "A" had not). Therefore it is an independent creation story with sequences, that unfortunatly do not agree with the sequences in Gen 1:1.

And we get into the unexplained things in Genesis, such as why there were "days" before there was a sun, and where the did light come from before the sun, moon, or stars were created? Where did the other people come from? Yes, convoluted explanations can be concocted to explain these discrepancies, but once you demonstrate you're willing to convolute the words in Genesis, then why not allow for Evolution as well?

Bottom line, Genesis is not litteral. The evidence in Gods creation points heavily to Evolution, and I do not believe God lies in His creation. Evolution does not negate any other meaning the Bible, so why fight it?

This creationism fight is damaging for believers, and damaging for religious conservatives, which have much more important things to do. This is why I believe these stories are being written, in a continuing attempt to hang the albatross of creationism around the neck of George Bush and conservative Republicans. We must reject it.

35 posted on 01/31/2005 8:53:58 AM PST by narby (Every time you have to take a flu shot proves Evolution all over again)
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